[development] No last access?

[Khalid Baheyeldin]

AjK,

Thanks for the deconstruction, it is very helpful for all of us. We should
do that more
when things are ambiguous.

On 2/12/07, Carl Mc Dade <carl_mcdade at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Put simply (SQL Server english query style) I need to get
>
> "how long it has been since the user last visited"
>

Does visit here mean the last browser hit, or the last login time?

By "last" do you mean "the previous session prior to this one", or the "last
access/login
in the present session". By session, I don't mean Drupal's session, but
rather the "visit"
as things like Google Analytics defines it.

If it is the "previous session" then it is tricky.

"the time/date of the users last visit"
>
> made available to a module when the user logs in.
>
> Carl Mc Dade
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>
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: AjK <drupal at f2s.com>
> To: development at drupal.org
> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 6:10:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [development] No last access?
>
> Carl,
>
> > Nope, That is updated first so their is no way of pulling
> > the old time code before the newer on sets. This is the
> > same problem as the access object. As matter of fact the
> > login ia updated a split second before the access time.
> >
> > access = 1171296985
> > login= 1171296984
>
> OK, let's go back to basics.... here's your question again:
>
> > Is there no longer a last access functionality?
> > using the global user and calling $user->access
> > gives the value after the database has been updated.
> > Not the value in the database at the time of login.
> > Ex. the value in the database table is 0000002.
> > You will not get this value but the value 0000003
> > which is the time of the latest access.
>
> The ->login is updated when a user logs in. It's updated
> just once at the login time. So I'm reading your question
> again and, if it's not ->login that you want you'll have
> to rephrase your question to make sense. I read your
> question as "I want the time the user actually logged in".
>
> Also, you might avoid the "confrontational" type responses
> by wording your question in a non-confrontational manner.
> "Is there no longer a last access functionality?" sounds
> like your accusing some Drupal Ninja Squirrel of stealing
> some of your nuts.
>
> How about posting:-
>
>   "I want to find the time for this particular event... blah blah"
>
> Basically, what I want to know is what do you mean by "last access
> functionality"?
>
> We have
>   ->login which is timestamp at login
>   ->access which is timestamp at last browser hit
>
> You want
>   ->something
>
> Define something.
>
> One point; "Nope, That is updated first so their is no way of pulling the
> old time code before the newer on sets". Erm, just how far back do you
> want
> to go? You are experimenting on global $user and so I assume you logged in
> to test, so I would expect recent values for ->login and ->access
>
> Imagine you are using user foo (eg uid = 1234). If you load that user
> object
> what you appear to asking for here is "when did that user login the time
> before the last login?". That's rather odd functionality to expect of any
> system except those that keep a record of every login time, forever.
> ->login is "the last time the user logged in" not "the last time the user
> logged in before last".
>
> So, it seems your question and your responses to date have been a little
> unclear.
>
> regards,
> --Andy
>
> (ps, I'm trying to help ;)
>
>
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