[development] Go PHP 5, Go!
Frando (Franz Heinzmann)
frando at xcite-online.de
Sat Jun 30 00:17:22 UTC 2007
FYI, I just found this quite interesting post on Hiverminds Magazine via
PHPDeveloper.org  - so this is already drawing quite some attention
(which is a Good Thing, IMHO).
Larry Garfield schrieb:
> This is a follow-up to the PHP 5 thread from a week or two ago. It looks like
> some momentum is building. Ken Rickard, Robert Douglas, and I have been
> talking with some of the Jooma folks, and have a working draft of the "core
> statement and justification". That is, what the goal is and why it is.
> Joomla's development team is discussing the matter and is leaning yes. Based
> on the earlier thread here I am hoping that there isn't much objection to
> Drupal participating in the "Go PHP5" effort. :-) So far Joomla is leaning
> yes, CakePHP is interested, and I had a positive first response from Typo3.
> Robert Douglas has volunteered himself to setup a web site for it.
> I'm not sure how Dries wants to handle the question of Drupal's participation
> (by vote, by consensus, or by fiat). Dries?
> Anyway, here's the working statement. Consider this an official
> recommendation that Drupal commit to participating in this effort.
> PHP 4 has served the web developer community for seven years now, and served
> it well. However, it also shows its age. Most of PHP 4's shortcomings have
> been addressed by PHP 5, released three years ago, but the transition from
> PHP 4 to PHP 5 has been slow for a number of reasons.
> PHP developers cannot leverage PHP 5's full potential without dropping support
> for PHP 4, but PHP 4 is still installed on a majority of shared web hosts and
> users would then be forced to switch to a different application. Web hosts
> cannot upgrade their servers to PHP 5 without making it impossible for their
> users to run PHP 4-targeted web apps, and have no incentive to go to the
> effort of testing and deploying PHP 5 while most web apps are still
> compatible with PHP 4 and the PHP development team still provides maintenance
> support for PHP 4. The PHP development team, of course, can't drop
> maintenance support for PHP 4 while most web hosts still run PHP 4.
> It is a dangerous cycle, and one that needs to be broken. The open source PHP
> developer community has decided that it is indeed now time to move forward,
> together. Therefore, the listed open source PHP projects have all agreed
> that effective 5 February 2008, any new feature release will have a minimum
> required PHP version no older than PHP 5.2.0. It is our believe that this
> will allow web hosts a reason to upgrade and the PHP development team the
> ability to retire PHP 4 and focus efforts on PHP 5 and the forthcoming PHP 6,
> all without penalizing any existing project for being "first out of the
> - I chose the date because I figure that will be 7-8 months after we
> officially announce this thing, which I believe should be sufficient time for
> web hosts. It also comes out to 5/2/2008 (using European convention), and I
> just like inside references like that. :-)
> - This does not preclude any project from moving before the deadline date, or
> from supporting older versions for however long they wish to. That's up to
> each project.
> - PHP 5.2 is already the most widely installed version of PHP 5, based on the
> latest published stats. I know at least two web hosts I work with that
> either have jumped or are in the process of jumping from PHP 4 straight to
> PHP 5.2. By the target date it will have been out for nearly a year and a
> half. It also adds a number of new and useful core features (filter_input,
> json, a stable PDO, etc.). It's a good version to target.
> Thoughts? Comments? Support? Rotten tomatoes?
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