[development] Newbie announcement + starting a new meeting related module

Victor Kane victorkane at gmail.com
Sat May 12 20:39:17 UTC 2007

Yes, I'm on my way to a meeting now.

That makes me happy because it means people are getting organized. :)

But ... meetings can be grueling, can't they?

So Walt's idea is excellent, because the way to avoid runaway coding is to
make a spec, which would have the added advantage of being able to pick out
the underlying architecture (modules, views, cck...)

And who knows, with time and Drupal adoption, it might even start to cope
with runaway meetings!

Victor Kane

On 5/12/07, Walt Daniels <wdlists at optonline.net> wrote:
>  Although one could easily generate an octopus monster if everyone throws
> in their favorite meetting features, this looks like a genuinely interesting
> mashup and worthy of spending a little time spec writing to get it right
> (whatever that means for at least some significant subset of people). As one
> who participates in far too many meetings, I would like to be part of that
> process. Perhaps starting a new drupal group would get us off to a good
> start.
> Just to throw in a few more features, a lot of meetings have preprepared
> documents for participants to read so there needs to an easy way of
> including them. Some sort of an agenda template that can be tuned to your
> organization would be good and then another template to construct the
> minutes after the meeting. Both have to be pretty flexible judging by the
> various meetings I go to where they only bear a passing resemblence. Audio,
> video or even stenographers notes might be "full" record of the meeting.
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* development-bounces at drupal.org [mailto:
> development-bounces at drupal.org] *On Behalf Of *Victor Kane
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 12, 2007 3:32 PM
> *To:* development at drupal.org
> *Subject:* Re: [development] Newbie announcement + starting a new meeting
> related module
> Apart from David's suggestions, you might want to consider splitting the
> functionality up into different kinds of globs of responsability.
> Seems to me like you have meetings, tasks and a way to view the minutes of
> a meeting together with the status of their embedded tasks, as a report, and
> as an easy form of navigation.
> For example, a meeting can have tasks (issues, cases) referenced into it
> in some way.
> Now, look and see if there do not already exist content types/modules that
> can duplicate PART of the total functionality, and then fashion a mashup
> with cck (nodereference) and views.
> Of course, you are behind the eight ball if the module you want to re-use
> has no support for cck and/or views.
> Then consider using David's approach and fashion content types (meeting,
> with usernode and/or user references, nodereferences; task; ...) and views
> (or embed views into content type displays...).
> Because part of the problem is not only that of overlapping modules, but
> also modules which do not abide by any architectural considerations in terms
> of fostering re-use, and separating modules into convenient re-usable
> class-type entities.
> Hope that helps,
> Victor Kane
> awebfactory.com.ar
> On 5/12/07, Bob < anarchybob at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hey there, I'm new to this so go easy if I make any blatant faux pas!
> >
> > A bit about me: I've been doing php & mysql programming for quite a
> > while now, and make the odd hack application here and there. I think
> > like a lot of people I've come round to the idea helping with a big
> > CMS is a much better way to go!  I've not contributed to a big project
> > before either.  I got a copy of the Drupal Pro Development book, and
> > it all seems kinda straightforward so hopefully I'll be ok!
> >
> > Anyway, I want to create a new module.  I've not seem anything
> > similar, but let me know if I'm duplicating existing functionality (I
> > think there's some crossover, but anyway).  And also sorry if this is
> > the wrong place for this, I couldn't see a suitable list otherwise!
> >
> > I want to make a module for meetings that tracks individual agenda
> > items and action points.  I'm involved in an activist community where
> > a lot of people do a lot of different meetings all the time, and
> > there's rarely any continuity.  The module would work as follows.
> >
> > 1. Before a meeting, people can add individual agenda items that allow
> > comments and discussion.
> > 2. Just before the meeting, the agenda can be printed off as a time
> > saving device.
> > 3. After the meeting, comments or minutes can be recorded against
> > specific items to allow better tracking (keywords, etc)
> > 4. Also, and the main focus of this module, individual action points
> > can be added and assigned to users.
> > 5. In a way similar to case tracker, people can then leave comments
> > and mark tasks when they're done.
> > 6. At the next meeting, it should be easy to keep a track of what's
> > actually been done, and see what's dragging on.
> >
> > As you can see it's kind of a circular process, but I hope you kind of
> > get the idea!
> >
> > I have a few ideas how this will all work in my head, but if anyone is
> > interested or would like to help that would be great, as I think it's
> > quite an ambitious first project and a little mentoring would be
> > appreciated!
> >
> > A few notes:
> > - I was looking at making meeting node types extensions of event
> > types, to keep all that functionality.
> > - Two basic new node types would be involved - Action Point and Meeting.
> >
> > - I was thinking of using taxonomy to track things like meeting groups.
> > - For action point entry, I was visualising posting them as a plain
> > text list, which then gets parsed and each line added as a node.
> >
> > As I've already stressed, any and all input welcomed, even if it's a
> > case of 'don't bother because of X reason'.
> >
> > Thanks a lot!
> >
> >
> > David
> > xx
> >
> > --
> > phone: 0774 3917404
> > skype: daresbalat
> > msn: bobulatorm at hotmail.com
> >
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