[development] So why we do support postgresql?
Konstantin Käfer
kkaefer at gmail.com
Tue Jan 15 19:14:51 UTC 2008
Hi,
I am with Károly on this one. PostgreSQL support is certainly a nice
to have feature, but since there is noone seriously using it
(NowPublic used PostgreSQL a couple of months ago but eventually
switched to MySQL), supporting it is more a hinderance than an actual
benefit for Drupal.
Fact is that MySQL is by far the most used DBMS used with Drupal. That
has two reasons: MySQL is installed on most hosts and most people in
the PHP hosting business are familiar with setting up, configuring and
tuning MySQL.
The second reason is that most contrib modules don't properly support
Postgres, and only few people are running a Drupal site without
several contrib modules. So, what buys us supporting Postgres in core
if you can't actually use it because critical contrib modules don't
support it properly? You guessed it. Let's not get into the illusion
that module maintainers will eventually add Postgres support; most of
them don't even have Postgres installed and I bet most are not willing
to learn yet another DBMS' innards to circumnavigate all the cliffs
associated with that task.
IMO, there are two ways we could go:
- Rip out Postgres support (but let's not drop the DBAL; we need it
for mysql vs. mysqli and it's not really a speed issue)
- Completely abstract access to the database so that module authors
don't have to write actual SQL code
Konstantin Käfer -- http://kkaefer.com/
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On 15.01.2008, at 19:22, Karoly Negyesi wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Still there are no testers. I want to reiterate my plea: make
> postgresql support somewhat optional. If there are testers, great, if
> not, go on with life. You can flame me, but this is already the state
> of affairs just noone wants to admit. Just see
> http://groups.drupal.org/node/6980 . Greg spoonfeeds you. I know we
> will get testers for the rest of the week because of this letter and
> then they will move away as it happened uncounted times.
>
> I wonder what people will say. "Monoculture is bad" -- tick, do not
> bother with this answer. "You are evil" -- tick, do not bother either.
> "There are testers, but" -- surely there are just they have hidden
> themselves really well. What about answering something constructive? I
> *am* bored by needing this raised every month.
>
> Regards
>
> Karoly Negyesi
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