[development] Move Dev List to groups.drupal.org

James Gilliland neclimdul at gmail.com
Wed Nov 18 19:21:12 UTC 2009

I find email generally better anyways. I do wish some conversations
that happen on the dev list happened elsewhere though. It has been
better recently but the list tends to have a lot of noise and little
signal. As a result I think we've seen discussions that would benefit
from the broadcast nature of such a list moved offline and else where.


On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:17 PM, David Cohen <drupal at dave-cohen.com> wrote:
> I too have been unable to log into g.d.o for months.  I'm not in favor
> of moving anything there.
> If my account there can't be synced with my g.o account, please someone
> just delete http://groups.drupal.org/user/459.
> -Dave
> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:54 +0000, "Antonio P. P. Almeida"
> <perusio at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I agree with this idea. It could improve the usefulness of the
>> development list for members and non members. But right now g.d.o is
>> pretty much in a transition. I'm waiting for an account synch
>> requested almost 2 months ago. Also the current setting of "flooding"
>> the group subscribers with each edit/revision of a post/comment is
>> quite annoying. I don't know if there's a way to turn it off.
>> Let's face it, MLs are much mature and stable than g.d.o right now.
>> I'm not picking with the g.d.o infrastructure team, I know that
>> there's a lot on their plate. Notwithstanding, we should aim for moving
>> everything to g.d.o. But first let it settle down. There's also the
>> push for the new d.o.
>> In the meantime people can use the gmane interface to list for
>> searching up to date content:
>> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.php.drupal.devel
>> --- appa
>> On 18 Nov 2009 18h30 WET, shai at content2zero.com wrote:
>> > I'm pulling this out as a separate thread...
>> >
>> > Jenniver wrote,
>> >
>> > Shai Gluskin wrote:
>> >
>> >> 3. *Move dev list to g.d.o.*   [...]
>> >>
>> >
>> > I can sympathize with your desire to have a more searchable output
>> > for this list, on-line forums such as g.d.o are a huge barrier to
>> > participation compared to email lists.
>> >
>> > So if this list is moved to g.d.o and we want it to still be a
>> > useful list with immediate feedback and lots of participants, we
>> > would also need to provide a way for people to participate fully via
>> > email (i.e. make it so it looks and acts just like an email
>> > list). In which case, the threads will look/act/search like email,
>> > and I don't think we will have solved anything.
>> >
>> > --Jennifer
>> >
>> > My issue with the search results at
>> > http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/development is not the formatting;
>> > it's the content. Searching on terms like "module development" the
>> > top results are from March. I mean, there really is something wrong.
>> >
>> > Given the delays in upgrading to the new d.o. design, I'm not sure
>> > where things stand. But I know there were definitely discussions
>> > about tweaking the notifications system and also adding Mail Comment
>> > (formerly Mail2Web): http://drupal.org/node/634074. Mail Comment
>> > would allow for replicating list serve functionality for folks who
>> > don't want to go to g.d.o. And again... I don't care about the
>> > formatting; I want the transparency, the integration with d.o. web
>> > sites, it running on Drupal, and also the much more personal and
>> > community feel you get at g.d.o with user pics/profiles etc. With
>> > Mail Comment we can have the push of the list serve but the better
>> > functionality of g.d.o.
>> >
>> > Shai

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