[development] Proposal: Drupal University

David Shaver d.a.shaver at dashaver.com
Sat Jan 2 15:59:49 UTC 2010


Margie I just bought your book from Amazon.

David A. Shaver
D. A. Shaver Web Design
Web Page Design for Small Business
www.dashaver.com
PO Box 594 Galesburg,IL 61402-0594
309.343.0027



On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 9:22 AM, <mroswell at gmail.com> wrote:

> > It would be great to some courses on views and cck
>
> I wrote the Packt book on Views 1. A number of people have said it's
> helped them to work better with Views 2. It's not "curriculum" so much
> as step-by-step recipes for specific tasks.
>
> http://www.packtpub.com/drupal-5-views-recipes
> http://www.amazon.com/Drupal-Views-Recipes-Marjorie-Roswell/dp/1847196969
>
> Its focus is on the end-user, but developers will likely get at least
> some value out of it, too, if only for the comprehensive list of
> views-enabled modules, the list of views hooks (which don't all
> transfer to Views 2), and a few recipes on theming.
>
> I've done almost no promotion, but seems worth a mention here.
> Given the version, sales have been minimal, too, but it's a pretty good
> book.
>
> By the way, lest anyone ask:  I originally planned to write the next
> version, but seemed I needed some self-care more than I needed to
> write the upgrade. I developed a vitamin D deficiency over the course
> of writing the book. (5 ng/ml, really low)
>
> Happy New Year everyone.
>
> Margie
>
> PS. I'll bet most of us have a D deficiency. Hmmm... maybe time to get
> a solar-powered laptop... and a solarium (indoor sun room) for
> winter... Hmmm, book sales not quite up to all that!
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 9:44 AM, David Shaver <d.a.shaver at dashaver.com>
> wrote:
> > It would be great to some courses on views and cck
> > David A. Shaver
> > D. A. Shaver Web Design
> > Web Page Design for Small Business
> > www.dashaver.com
> > PO Box 594 Galesburg,IL 61402-0594
> > 309.343.0027
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 9:29 PM, James Benstead <james.benstead at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> After a brief discussion on the docs list this has now moved to g.d.o
> >> at http://groups.drupal.org/node/42236. One way the project could work
> is
> >> for hardcore Drupal developers to do a little consulting on the course
> >> syllabuses for their area(s) of expertise. If this is something that
> might
> >> be of interest to you, please join the g.d.o discussion. Thanks!
> >>
> >> 2009/12/28 James Benstead <james.benstead at gmail.com>
> >>>
> >>> I want there to be a set of free courses that people can work through
> to
> >>> learn about Drupal. Initially, at least, these "courses" would be a
> >>> reorganisation of existing material, kind of like the Drupal Cookbook.
> >>>
> >>> I suppose the skill/experience element here is going to be working out
> >>> what the syllabus needs to be for each course. The courses can then
> point at
> >>> existing documentation, whether that's text or videos or whatever. If
> there
> >>> are gaps, we can write new documentation - so organising things in this
> way
> >>> also helps us work out what documentation we need.
> >>>
> >>> I've posted to the Documentation list at
> >>> http://lists.drupal.org/mailman/listinfo/documentation - I guess
> that's the
> >>> best place to continue this discussion. Would be great if you could
> help.
> >>>
> >>> 2009/12/28 marcia wilbur <marcia.k.wilbur at gmail.com>
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm not sure which direction you are heading with this.
> >>>>
> >>>> Are you possibly considering video elements with the course design or
> >>>> text based courses?
> >>>>
> >>>> If you are talking about simply reorganizing, then it is just a matter
> >>>> of management of information, correct?
> >>>> If you are considering creating courseware or WBTs based on existing
> >>>> documentation that could take a little more time and talent.
> >>>> Either way, sounds like a good idea. I could help.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 8:39 AM, James Benstead
> >>>> <james.benstead at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks for the comments.
> >>>>> Drupal Dojo is great, when it's running - but it does seem to me that
> >>>>> it lacks a little organisation. What I am suggesting doesn't
> necessarily
> >>>>> need to be new documentation, per se, but instead the organisation of
> >>>>> existing documentation under a useful structure.
> >>>>> Perhaps calling it Drupal University is a bit misleading as I don't
> >>>>> forsee there being any formal assessment or accreditation, but there
> would
> >>>>> be structured courses to work through. For example, "Drupal 101:
> Beginning
> >>>>> Drupal" which could teach complete newbies how to set up a core
> installation
> >>>>> on a local or remote server; or "Drupal 201: Basic Theming" which
> could
> >>>>> explain how .tpl.php files worked and how CSS works in Drupal.
> >>>>> The Packt books are great, but they are short and sweet and they
> don't
> >>>>> offer an overall structure. Pro Drupal Development is superb and
> offers a
> >>>>> great structure, but it has its limitations: in short, it's a book.
> First
> >>>>> off, you have to buy it, for real money. I have no problem with
> people
> >>>>> making money out of open source software (especially when their work
> is as
> >>>>> brilliant as in the case of PDD), but I do think there should be a
> free,
> >>>>> "open source" alternative. If for no other reason, the cover price of
> PDD is
> >>>>> huge for developers in 2nd or 3rd world countries (i.e., the majority
> of the
> >>>>> population of the planet) and they should have an alternative.
> Secondly, you
> >>>>> can't interact with a book: having a structured set of web resources
> would
> >>>>> mean people could comment on and discuss the resources, kind of like
> >>>>> students do on a real university campus.
> >>>>> I suppose the resource that gets closest to what I'm thinking is the
> >>>>> Drupal Cookbook - this could be Drupal 101. It fits my proposal
> because it
> >>>>> doesn't provide new documentation, but just organises what's already
> out
> >>>>> there. But more importantly, it answers the question, "I am at stage
> X in
> >>>>> learning Drupal, what should I do next?". Granted, it answers the
> simplest
> >>>>> version of this question, and for more advanced developers the answer
> well
> >>>>> may be multi-faceted - "if you want to specialise in X, go and learn
> Y" -
> >>>>> but it does crystallise what I'm proposing.
> >>>>> Again, anyone got any more thoughts on this?
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Google Talk/Windows Live Messenger/AIM: james.benstead at gmail.com
> >>>>> Yahoo! Messenger/Twitter/IRC (Freenode): jim0203
> >>>>> Jabber: jim0203 at jabber.org // ICQ: 7088050
> >>>>> Skype: jimbenstead
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2009/12/28 Yani <akayani at aapt.net.au>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.drupalbook.com/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That looks like a good one. I'll make that my first D7 book.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Yani
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: development-bounces at drupal.org
> >>>>>> [mailto:development-bounces at drupal.org]
> >>>>>> On Behalf Of Andrew Schulman
> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, 28 December 2009 7:37 PM
> >>>>>> To: development at drupal.org
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [development] Proposal: Drupal University
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> > Shell out some cash on books by Matt Butcher / Packit Publishing.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The Packit books are fine as far as they go, but are usually short
> and
> >>>>>> basic.
> >>>>>> For a detailed look at Drupal's big picture, I highly recommend Pro
> >>>>>> Drupal
> >>>>>> Development, 2nd ed. by John VanDyk.  2nd ed. is for D6, but I see
> >>>>>> that a
> >>>>>> 3rd
> >>>>>> edition for D7 is due out in April.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Margie
> http://www.BaltimoreUrbanAg.org
> http://www.FarmersMarketVideo.org
> http://www.FriendlyCoffeehouse.org
> http://www.packtpub.com/drupal-5-views-recipes/book
>
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