+1<br><br>Courtesy: Useless replies Dept.<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 7/31/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Angela Byron</b> <<a href="mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org">email@example.com</a>> wrote:
</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">A couple weeks ago, a few developers started going into #drupal-dev<br>instead of #drupal and started a campaign to get people to split off.
<br>I guess the reasoning for this was because they disagreed with<br>newbies who didn't read the topic getting 'support?' in their face<br>when they join our "official" channel. I personally think it is a
<br>feature, and not a bug, that our main channel is contribution-focused<br>rather than support-focused, but that is largely irrelevant to the<br>topic at hand.<br><br>The problem is that the people who started this 'fork' have not been
<br>present in #drupal, actively taking part in support requests from<br>newbies, thus changing the 'mood' of the channel by their own words<br>in actions. Instead, the main channel's merely been abandoned by<br>
several very prominent contributors, a large portion of the<br>development community doesn't even realize there's a separate<br>channel, development discussion in general is now splintered between<br>the channels, and newbies are still getting 'support?' in #drupal.
<br><br>The climate in the 'official' channel right now is more that of a<br>ghost town of join/part messages, except for random musings about the<br>infrastructure and, of course, 'support?'. This gives the exact
<br>opposite impression to new Drupal users than the channel did before<br>the split -- a vibrant community of developers sharing issues or<br>patches to review, talking about new modules they're developing, etc.<br><br>
So please, #drupal-dev goers, either finish what you started by<br>actively working in #drupal to make it more newbie-friendly, or<br>abandon the experiment. So far, this feels like a net loss for the<br>community.<br><br>
-Angie<br><br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Robin Monks<br>@ <a href="http://www.civicspacelabs.org">www.civicspacelabs.org</a><br>@ <a href="http://www.gmking.org">www.gmking.org</a><br>@ <a href="http://www.multimediachurches.org">
www.multimediachurches.org</a><br><br>Fax: (419) 791-8076<br><br>"Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might." ~ Ephesians 6:10