Actually, rather than fight over this, I'll put 4 possible options to prevent the starvation scenario:<br><br>Merge scenarios:<br><br>1. Either the developers
live with it and say what the hell, we'll live with these pesky support
questions and just merge back to #drupal, cancelling #drupal-support altogether.<br>
<br>2. Somehow put a new message in #drupal saying "support questions
between 3-5 GMT", no telling if that would be any different than the current message saying go to #drupal-support. Effectively cancelling #drupal-support<br><br>Split scenarios:<br>
<br>3. To somehow redirect #drupal goers to #drupal-dev at specific times in the day (I'm not an IRC guru so I don't know if this could even be done), so they would sort of feel that between 3-5 GMT they're catching the best people capable of answering they're questions without even realizing they're in #drupal-dev. Developers will know what's happening and will accept this for a couple of hours a day. This seems very promising but I don't know if it's implementable.
<br>4. Assign 4+ support guys who can at least guarantee a couple of hours in the #drupal channel a day, actually, why not go for 20+, the more the better. That way it would become sort of an ethical responsibility to care of the baby drupal-ers in #drupal :D
<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/1/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Dave Fletcher</b> <<a href="mailto:email@example.com">firstname.lastname@example.org</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Quoth KILLES<br>"When you've helped more Newbie-Developers(!) than I (in #drupal), you<br>may make such remarks."<br><br>Why does the channel matter? I've helped dozens or hundreds of<br>fledgling folks take their first steps. You're probably the one who
<br>sent them to #drupal-support where I helped them. Development support<br>abounds in that channel because some folks are actually scared to poke<br>their heads into drupal (jeez, um guess why?)<br><br>"working with it" entails *doing what people expect*, not shoving them off.
<br><br>--fletch<br><br><br><br>On 7/31/07, Gerhard Killesreiter <<a href="mailto:email@example.com">firstname.lastname@example.org</a>> wrote:<br>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>> Hash: SHA1<br>><br>
> Dave Fletcher schrieb:<br>> > Killes,<br>><br>> That's "Mr. Killesreiter" for you.<br>><br>> > don't you see that it's this horrible condescending attitude<br>> > that is the whole problem? Do you not *want* newbies?
<br>> > Are you allergic?<br>><br>> When you've helped more Newbie-Developers(!) than I (in #drupal), you<br>> may make such remarks.<br>><br>> > New folks are often in a rush to get their first project out the door.
<br>> > It's understandable. That's why they picked a CMS and didn't sit down<br>> > to write an application. So they're in a hurry, glance at IRC<br>> > channels, and find one that looks like it will help. *This will
<br>> > continue to happen no matter what the channel charters are*<br>><br>> So? We'll send them to the right place.<br>><br>> > So, my vote is, let's work with it instead of fighting it all the
<br>> > time. Mr. Killesreiter<br>><br>> See, there you got it right.<br>><br>> > we're having fun while the tumbleweeds blow in<br>> > #drupal. Join us! It's your destiny ;-)<br>><br>
> No.<br>><br>> I actually don't mind that there is less traffic now.<br>><br>> Cheers,<br>> Gerhard<br>><br>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----<br>> Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux)<br>
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