[drupal-docs] Drupal vs Mambo

Andrew Hoppin andrew at civicspacelabs.org
Tue Aug 2 07:02:16 UTC 2005


I love that we have these disagreements-- the point of a platform is 
that it can be implemented in many different ways for many different 
uses.  In the case of Mambo et al there really wouldn't even be a need 
to have this discussion.  They're for content management.    The fact 
that there is even a debate here underscores Drupal's uniqueness and 
value in my view.

On Aug 1, 2005, at 10:16 AM, Morbus Iff wrote:

>> Do you mean to tell me that community blogging with threaded comments 
>> is not social software? In what part of the internet have you've been 
>> living in?!?!
>
> <insert snarky comment about buzzwords, wheel re-inventing, and 
> elitism>
>
> First off, give me your exact definition of what social software
> is. Then, read this long and developed history of social software:
>
>   http://duoqu.blogbus.com/logs/2005/04/1148540.html
>
> Nearly everything described in there that is a "feature" can be turned 
> on within Drupal, and most of the times, by default, isn't even turned 
> on. If we remove the social interaction between two IM clients, it is 
> no longer useful for its intent - it is no longer an IM client. If we 
> remove the chatting between two IRC users, it is no longer useful for 
> its intent - it is no longer an IRC client.
>
> On the other hand, if we remove the commenting on a blog, it is still 
> a blog - it still allows me to log to the web what it is I wish to 
> log. Is it still a piece of social software, when the interaction is 
> one to many?
>
> Drupal is much the same way: when you strip Drupal of all its 
> features, as it is on a default install, it is nothing more than a 
> content management system. What it becomes after that is entirely in 
> the vision of the admin:
>
>  "community with blogs and forums, calendar, ecommerce, magazine,
>   corporate site, image gallery, intranet app to manage docs...).
>   If you describe Drupal as social software you are limiting in
>   a great manner its capabilities."
>
> from álvaro is quite true. Software that lives up to its name can not 
> become something else without additional effort: sure, I could have, 
> years ago, use AIMster to ONLY trade files with other contacts, and 
> never IM them, but that would certainly remove the "social" aspect of 
> the IM soft.
>
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