[documentation] does this seem funny to anyone else?

[Shai Gluskin]

Ricco,

I've got to run get a train. Won't be able to answer you point by point.

Drupal.org is in major transition. There is a team of dedicated docs folks
who are working to reorganize the help and docs section. Making sure people
are able to find the docs team and learn how to join and its benefits is a
good thing and you can join forces to remind us of that, or I'll try to make
a note of it.

"We" is everyone "here.". There isn't a "them." If you try to make one, it
will make people more suspicious of you.

"Filtered Html" doesn't mean anything on its own. It works together with
other input formats.

You seem to be stressing "promoting." Stressing "collaborating" tends to be
more effective in the Drupal community.

You seem to have a very clear answer to how things should work. People have
been working on docs for a long time. Doesn't mean those folks have all the
answers. But there is a history to stuff, and there is a commitment to
change. But coming in and saying "I have all the answers" isn't particularly
helpful. But there isn't "one Drupal way" that needs to be enforced and all
outsiders coming in with better ideas will be rejected because they are
outsiders -- I'm not saying exactly that, but it's sounding like that and it
isn't true.

Seems like it takes at least two clicks to change any page, wiki or any
other way.

Why do you assume that Wiki style syntax is easier for most people. Actually
very few people are active editors of Wikipedia, I think under 10,000. I'm
not saying wiki syntax might not be ultimately included -- but your clarity
about its superiority can be doubted by reasonable people.

I'm off to the train.

Best,

Shai

On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 3:36 AM, <ricco at webulite.com> wrote:

> lol... this kind of cracks me up. In a frustrating kind of way :)
>
> Instead of getting OKed to create about the 265th group,
> http://groups.drupal.org/WikiHelp
> 1) to promote the wiki content type
> 2) that can be edited with one click
> 3) and promote [[freelinking]] syntax
>
> The recommendation seems to be;
>
> 1) join the Drupal doc team which is somewhat difficult to find and join,
> and make changes that others will not be able to change unless they also
> join the drupal doc team, which again, is not even know by most people.
>
> 2) so that I can make content type BOOK page that I do not want to promote
> instead of the content type WIKI content type that I do
>
> 3) and use a syntax I don't want to promote, FILTERED HTML, instead of the
> FREELINKING syntax I want to promote.
>
> 4) to build pages that anyone that views them will never be able to change
> with one click (like wiki pages), and will probably never realize they
> might also be able to change, if they can find how to join the doc team
> themselves, and wanted to take the time to do so. So I am not building a
> community where people EASILY change pages I have started
>
> 5) So that that I can build karma with Drupal
>
> 6) so that Drupal might consider changing their system to add allow wiki
> content types on drupal.org some day
>
> 7) so that I can do what groups.drupal.org does today and I have already
> created in working form.
>
>
> Does this seem kind of funny to anyone else?
>
> Cheers! Ricco
>
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