[documentation] Videos for Drupal 6

Mon Jan 28 23:02:40 UTC 2008

It's the sheer volume of the information we have that kills us.

On Jan 28, 2008 12:42 PM, Joshua Brauer <joshua at brauerranch.com> wrote:
> OK I misunderstood (and thought all the D6 videos were going to end up
> in that section)... That would create an unwieldy structure.
>
> So Perhaps 'Drupal 6 - Overview, Installation & Updating' ... it's a
> little long but covers the bases.
>
> Josh
>
>
>
> On Jan 28, 2008, at 1:23 PM, Addison Berry wrote:
>
> > The only problem with just "Drupal 6" etc, is that folks will expect
> > all D6 videos to be there. The existing proposal is only moving the
> > intro type stuff and not all versioned videos (like from modules,
> > theming, config, etc.) So, we should either name the version sections
> > to indicate that they only cover the basics OR we need to put all
> > versioned vids into sections together.
> >
> > This is all sort of related to the larger "versioning the handbook"
> > kind of issues we have. If we make a section for each drupal version,
> > then do we recreate the entire structure for each too? Sort of like...
> >
> > Drupal 6
> > - Introduction
> > - Core Config
> > - Modules
> > - Theming
> >
> > same for Drupal 5, same for older versioned stuff and then something
> > for non-versioned. It starts to feel a bit more unwieldy...
> >
> > Hmm, thoughts are welcome.
> > Addi (aka add1sun)
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jan 28, 2008, at 3:02 PM, Joshua Brauer wrote:
> >
> >> What if we either drop the "Introduction to" and just call them
> >> Drupal 6, Drupal 5, Drupal 4.7 etc. Or they could be Drupal 6 videos
> >> etc. which might be a bit redundant on the listing page but make for
> >> better page titles.
> >>
> >> The archive idea is great too.
> >>
> >> I think the proposed videos are the most important. If there is one
> >> more to be added I'd vote for a general "features" video for
> >> newcomers who are interested in both the new features and the long-
> >> standing features of Drupal
> >>
> >> Josh (aka JBrauer)
> >>
> >> On Jan 28, 2008, at 12:39 PM, Addison Berry wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yep, I am cool with this reorg. Talked with Greg on IRC and my only
> >>> suggestion is to have an "archive" section (maybe Older versions)
> >>> where we can put the Introduction to Drupal 4.7 section right now
> >>> and
> >>> then as new versions come out the oldest top level will get moved
> >>> into
> >>> the archive. That way we only have the latest 2 versions' intro
> >>> sections on top level and the rest are kept for posterity in the
> >>> archive area.
> >>>
> >>> My only other thought is maybe an even more generic term than
> >>> "Introduction" I'm not sure I would immediately look for upgrade
> >>> videos in an intro section - but maybe that's just me and I don't
> >>> feel
> >>> strongly on it.
> >>>
> >>> Re: videos to be made, I think that covers the basics we should have
> >>> for a D6 launch.
> >>>
> >>> Addi (aka add1sun)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Jan 28, 2008, at 2:16 PM, Steven Peck wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Talk to and coordinate with Addison.  She took over the
> >>>> organization
> >>>> of that section.
> >>>>
> >>>> Steven
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jan 28, 2008 11:10 AM, Greg Knaddison - GVS
> >>>> <Greg at growingventuresolutions.com> wrote:
> >>>>> Howdy Documenters,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have two topics I want to discuss.  First - organization of the
> >>>>> Videocasts section of the D.o handbooks - http://drupal.org/
> >>>>> videocasts
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think it would make sense to re-organize this by major release
> >>>>> of
> >>>>> Drupal.  I.e. a top level page for 5.x, 6.x, and 4.7 and earlier.
> >>>>> Gabor and I discussed this in IRC today as a way to help make it
> >>>>> easy
> >>>>> to find the 6.x videos that will be linked form the 6.0 release
> >>>>> announcement ( http://drupal.org/drupal-6.0 if you want to help
> >>>>> editing it).  Some of the pages in that section are "timeless"
> >>>>> like
> >>>>> how to create or apply a patch - that is valuable regardless of
> >>>>> Drupal
> >>>>> version.  But some are very specific to version (upgrading) which
> >>>>> makes me think that we should split the version specific videos
> >>>>> into
> >>>>> book pages for each version and then "general videos" will stay at
> >>>>> their current locations.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Here's the current hierarchy:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Videos
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -- Overviews
> >>>>> --- New Features in Drupal6
> >>>>> --- New i18n and l10n features in Drupal 6
> >>>>> --- Drupal 5 Features
> >>>>> --- What's new in Drupal 5
> >>>>> --- Drupal Features and Overview
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -- Installation and Upgrading
> >>>>> --- Installing Drupal 6
> >>>>> --- Installing Drupal 5
> >>>>> --- Upgrading to Drupal 5
> >>>>> --- Dudertown Installing 4.7
> >>>>> --- Installing Drupal 4.7
> >>>>>
> >>>>> My proposed hierarchy:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -- Introduction to Drupal6
> >>>>> --- New Features in Drupal6
> >>>>> --- New i18n and l10n features in Drupal 6
> >>>>> --- Installing Drupal 6
> >>>>> --- Upgrading to Drupal6
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -- Introduction to Drupal5
> >>>>> --- Drupal 5 Features
> >>>>> --- What's new in Drupal 5
> >>>>> --- Installing Drupal 5
> >>>>> --- Upgrading to Drupal 5
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -- Introduction to Drupal4.7
> >>>>> --- Dudertown Installing 4.7
> >>>>> --- Installing Drupal 4.7
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The rest of the handbooks are less complete on a "per version"
> >>>>> basis
> >>>>> and I think should be left as-is.  There's also less that changes
> >>>>> about, for example, blocks from 4.7->5.x->6.x
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Second, I want to coordinate on making sure that we get them all
> >>>>> done.
> >>>>> 1. Installing Drupal6 - done by Addi -
> >>>>> http://www.lullabot.com/videocasts/installing-drupal-6
> >>>>> 2. New features of Drupal6 - done by me (will redo this week) -
> >>>>> http://www.masteringdrupal.com/screencast/new-features-drupal-6
> >>>>> 3. i18n and l10n features of Drupal6 - done by me -
> >>>>> http://www.masteringdrupal.com/screencast/new-i18n-l10n-features-drupal-6
> >>>>> 4. Upgrading from Drupal 5.x to 6.x - I believe I will be doing
> >>>>> this one
> >>>>> 5. Anything else specific to the release?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I know there are plenty of other ideas related to videos for
> >>>>> Drupal
> >>>>> in
> >>>>> general - I'm just trying to make sure we've covered the most
> >>>>> important videos for the new release process.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Greg
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Greg Knaddison
> >>>>> Denver, CO | http://knaddison.com
> >>>>> World Spanish Tour | http://wanderlusting.org/user/greg
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