[documentation] Contributors to docs need more public recognition

[Steve Dondley]

Well stated, Shai.

And, Steve P's reasoning leaves me scratching my head wondering who is
actually going to be motivated to register at drupal.org to see the
revisions history? And how would anyone know they could see the list
of revisions unless they registered in the first place?

I guess we could put the revision tab there and then give a hearty
"access denied" to anyone who clicked on it. But that's not a very
welcoming message to send to new users in the community.

On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Shai Gluskin <shai at content2zero.com> wrote:
> Steve P. wrote:
>>
>> This is not a performance question as far as I am concerned, this is a
>> benefit of
>> joining the community.
>
> @steve-p I disagree with this assertion. It suggests that one of the goals
> of Drupal.org is to try to get people to join the community via registering
> at the site. It suggests that drupal.org withholds goodies in order to get
> them to register.
>
> There are many legitimate reasons to hold back various functionalities from
> anonymous users (e.g. security, system resources etc.), but I don't believe
> that restricting project transparency for the sake of increasing the number
> of registered users at Drupal.org is a valid reason.
>
> I have been really impressed with transparency in the Drupal project. The
> proceedings of the project are available for public review. I find that
> inspiring. That kind of transparency is rare in the worlds of government,
> business, and sadly, non-profits as well. Leaders are typically concerned
> with message, spin, and control. I haven't seen much of that in Drupal. (I'm
> user/50259, joined in 2/06 and have gotten steadily more involved over
> time.)
>
> I often need to explain to people that open-source does not mean
> "egalitarian" -- we are not all equal in the project. And Dries as project
> leader has the final say on many things, especially as regards to core. It
> isn't a democracy. But the success of the project does rely on highly
> motivated people becoming involved. I believe that the significant
> transparency of this project is one of the motivating factors for people to
> become involved.
>
> The Revisions Tab is a small part of Drupal's transparency profile. But it
> worries me, even in this little arena, to think of access to certain
> information being used as a reward for registration. That feels controlling
> to me. It feels counter to Drupal's open approach.
>
> Shai
>
> On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Steven Peck <sepeck at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> We are not enabling revisions for anonymous users.  This is not a
>> performance question as far as I am concerned, this is a benefit of
>> joining the community.
>>
>> On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 2:12 PM, catch <catch56 at googlemail.com> wrote:
>> > On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 6:10 PM, Peter Wolanin
>> >  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Regarding making revisions available to anonymous users - you'd better
>> >> talk to Gerhard and Narayan (and other infra people).  The scalability
>> >> problem might be that you've essentially doubled the number of
>> >> handbook pages that will be spidered.
>> >
>> >
>> > If we excluded *revisions* in robots.txt we could probably avoid the
>> > spidering. That's probably one post subdomain-split anyway.
>> >
>> > http://drupal.org/handbook/updates was exactly the page I meant,
>> > couldn't
>> > place it when I typed the e-mail. Ta!
>> >
>> > Nat
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