[documentation] Proposal to deprecate the docs mailing list

Shai Gluskin shai at content2zero.com
Fri Nov 21 00:17:33 UTC 2008


+1

Shai

Shai Gluskin

On Nov 20, 2008, at 7:03 PM, "Heather" <hjames at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Okey, I am strongly in favor of working with the team on a wiki page  
> to focus on, for example, a review of the getting started guide.  
> Being able to keep a list, suggest reordering, etc, through wiki its  
> superior.
>
> Also, having the mailing list, when there is so much productive  
> activity on g.d.o feels a bit like a back channel to me, which goes  
> counter to the transparent open policies of Drupal.
>
> But... Here I am, I have access through my phone and I'm responding  
> via email. That's the irony. Wish we could have it both ways. Hmm..  
> Wish I could browse g.d.o on my phone, but that's another problem!
>
> Can we sort of turn on wiki pages in the group, and see how it goes?  
> Hey if you used g.d.o you could make a poll. Heh.
>
> - Heather
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Addison Berry <drupal at rocktreesky.com>
>
> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:42:02
> To: <documentation at drupal.org>
> Subject: [documentation] Proposal to deprecate the docs mailing list
>
>
>> So this is an issue that has been kicking around in my head for a
>> while. It was raised briefly earlier this year (http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/2008-March/thread.html#5900
>> ) on the list and it was decided to stick with the mailing list. I
>> raised it again today during our IRC meeting to get a general pulse.
>> So, I'm going to lay it all out and see what the larger team thinks.
>>
>> I am proposing that we deprecate the documentation mailing list and
>> use groups.drupal.org for our discussions instead. In order to not
>> have conversations happening in two places we need to have one
>> definitive "discussion" venue. Due to this, the current docs group
>> is "read-only." To make it read-only we have to limit who can
>> actually become a member of the group. Limiting membership like this
>> severely hampers our use of all the tools that g.d.o could offer us.
>>
>> If we allowed membership and free posting on the g.d.o group, we
>> would:
>> - Still have email notifications of all discussions.
>> - Be able to use wiki posts to collaborate on one living document
>> rather than having to attach separate iterations to an issue in the
>> queue.
>> - Read threads all on one page rather than have to page through the
>> mailman archive.
>> - Organize and categorize discussions to make it easier to find
>> areas of interest.
>> - Replying to old threads that you didn't actually receive in email
>> is clear and straightforward - just leave a new comment. (How to
>> respond to archived mail threads is not an apparent thing.)
>>
>> The only advantage that the mailing list provides that the group
>> does not, is the ability to reply to a thread directly from your
>> email. I feel that losing this feature is worth the advantages we
>> would gain by shifting to g.d.o. I feel that this is true for
>> actually collaborating as a team and to make it easier for new users
>> to join in.
>>
>> I am posting this to the mailing list as well as posting on g.d.o
>> with comments turned on. This is one conversation that I'd like to
>> see discussed wherever folks feel most comfortable.
>
>
>
> - Addi (add1sun)
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