[documentation] Collecting Drupal presentations / videos / resources together in one sane place

Kristof Van Tomme kvantomme at gmail.com
Mon Feb 9 23:54:23 UTC 2009


oops, yes GMT+1

2009/2/10 Gus Austin <gus at pepperalley.com>:
> Once I figure out what time that would be PST, I'll round up the people that
> are currently committing some time to make this happen. Cheers!
>
> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Kristof Van Tomme <kvantomme at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Interested in Drupal materials infrastructure?
>>
>> Meet us at the Dojo's Dimdim tomorrow (Tuesday) at 6pm CET+1 - check
>> your timezone!
>>
>> If you want to join but you didn't sign up on the doodle poll yet:
>> http://doodle.com/participation.html?pollId=fg3pem2nnt8m7acu
>>
>> I haven't used the Dojo Dimdim yet, so Addi or Gus can you take the lead?
>>
>>
>> cheers,
>> Kristof
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/2/6 Kristof Van Tomme <kvantomme at gmail.com>:
>> > Hi Gus, and all others interested in Drupal resource aggregation,
>> >
>> > We can of course hold that meeting at the Dojo's Dimdim, either Monday
>> > or Tuesday 6pm seems to be an option right now.
>> >
>> > If you haven't signed up yet but you would like to be part of the
>> > brainstorming vote at:
>> > http://doodle.com/participation.html?pollId=fg3pem2nnt8m7acu
>> >
>> > cheers,
>> > Kristof
>> >
>> >
>> > 2009/2/5 Gus Austin <gus at pepperalley.com>:
>> >> I was planning on scheduling another planning session (looks like
>> >> Monday or
>> >> Tuesday might work best) using Dojo's Dimdim
>> >> (http://groups.drupal.org/node/17806) to get everyone on the same page
>> >> for
>> >> the Dojo project. As previously mentioned, the aggregation element is a
>> >> top
>> >> priority.
>> >>
>> >> Would be great to have Addi involved in the convo, but either way, she
>> >> has a
>> >> good deal of knowledge about the Dojo and will make sure that any
>> >> innovation
>> >> makes it back into the official documentation.
>> >>
>> >> If that sounds good, I'll schedule a session for early next week and
>> >> we'll
>> >> keep the conversations going in the Drupal Groups (this is a good
>> >> thread to
>> >> jump in - http://groups.drupal.org/node/15832) and #drupal-dojo IRC.
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 9:57 AM, George <g at 8vue.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> ok, i've put some times in too!
>> >>>
>> >>> Addison Berry wrote:
>> >>> > I have plugged in some times that I'm available, but I do not
>> >>> > consider
>> >>> > myself essential in any way, so if a better time works for everyone
>> >>> > else, please go with it.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > - Addi
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Feb 5, 2009, at 2:52 AM, Kristof Van Tomme wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> Hi,
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Can we maybe have a Skype meetup on the topic?
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> I made a doodle, so if you are interested, just sign up
>> >>> >> http://doodle.com/participation.html?pollId=fg3pem2nnt8m7acu
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> cheers,
>> >>> >> Kristof
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> 2009/2/5 Gus Austin <gus at pepperalley.com>:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> Hi,
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> I chatted to George in the IRC about some projects/initiatives
>> >>> >>> complimentary
>> >>> >>> to what's being discussed here. The following thread should give
>> >>> >>> you some
>> >>> >>> background and an idea how things are moving forward with one of
>> >>> >>> them -
>> >>> >>> http://groups.drupal.org/node/15832
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> The aggregation element has been broken out into it's own
>> >>> >>> subproject
>> >>> >>> (http://groups.drupal.org/node/16873) and the goal is to create
>> >>> >>> something
>> >>> >>> modular that could easily be set up on the Dojo site, on official
>> >>> >>> channels
>> >>> >>> (g.d.o./d.o.), or anywhere else it would make sense.
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> There's already a good foundation, skilled team coming together,
>> >>> >>> and it
>> >>> >>> would great to combine forces build something that would be very
>> >>> >>> valuable to
>> >>> >>> the community.
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> Come join the fun!
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 2:48 PM, George <g at 8vue.com> wrote:
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>>> Kristof, heck yeah, i'd love any help i can get :) i just haven't
>> >>> >>>> thought that far ahead and really shouldn't be writing emails
>> >>> >>>> late
>> >>> >>>> at
>> >>> >>>> night! please send me your email, so i can contact you directly.
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>> Kristof Van Tomme wrote:
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>>> Hi George,
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>> I'm not sure if you got my email, the only reference I see is
>> >>> >>>>> about
>> >>> >>>>> the bookmarks.
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>> What about
>> >>> >>>>> -multi-lingual resources?
>> >>> >>>>> -my offer to help?
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>> -There is a big chance I'll be involved in the video team at the
>> >>> >>>>> next
>> >>> >>>>> European Drupalcon (e.g. for sure if Maastricht wins, possibly
>> >>> >>>>> if
>> >>> >>>>> Paris wins).
>> >>> >>>>> -I have access to the Szeged video material (we put it online).
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>> But if you want to go it alone good luck =D
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>> Cheers,
>> >>> >>>>> Kristof
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>> 2009/2/4 George <g at 8vue.com>:
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>> Yeah, Addi's hit on the important point of time consumption.
>> >>> >>>>>> That's why
>> >>> >>>>>> I was thinking it's important to 'use' the community as much as
>> >>> >>>>>> possible, allowing it to add new videos (trusted members
>> >>> >>>>>> though)
>> >>> >>>>>> to
>> >>> >>>>>> allow the site to grow.
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>> Addi's also hit upon something I didn't think about, and that
>> >>> >>>>>> was the
>> >>> >>>>>> forking of the comments for each video. Good point - thanks!
>> >>> >>>>>> maybe it
>> >>> >>>>>> would be better to leave it off for the resources. or, someway
>> >>> >>>>>> to track
>> >>> >>>>>> the comments on the original site...
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>> Defining a clear set of rules for QC would be difficult, I
>> >>> >>>>>> would
>> >>> >>>>>> assume
>> >>> >>>>>> as we have different learning styles, some prefer visual,
>> >>> >>>>>> audio,
>> >>> >>>>>> or
>> >>> >>>>>> kineasthetic means of learning, we may favour different
>> >>> >>>>>> explanations of
>> >>> >>>>>> a question depending on these styles. So, it may be good to
>> >>> >>>>>> have
>> >>> >>>>>> different persons 'reviewing'. That way, if users find they
>> >>> >>>>>> favour one
>> >>> >>>>>> particular style, they can look at that particular reviewer for
>> >>> >>>>>> videos.
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>> After spending 5 hours producing a video which explains (badly)
>> >>> >>>>>> how to
>> >>> >>>>>> create a recipe cck node type, a video producer could be pissed
>> >>> >>>>>> off
>> >>> >>>>>> with
>> >>> >>>>>> it being rejected, so maybe to allieviate this, implement a
>> >>> >>>>>> gold/silver/bronze rating to 'shut them up' and to not put them
>> >>> >>>>>> off for
>> >>> >>>>>> the future? they could in 3 months time be producing better
>> >>> >>>>>> vids, which
>> >>> >>>>>> they'd be feeding directly to the site.
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>> I think a bookmark site is useless for research / help. With
>> >>> >>>>>> 200
>> >>> >>>>>> gabazillion bookmarks, and seeing 4,999 'resources' tagged
>> >>> >>>>>> under
>> >>> >>>>>> cck
>> >>> >>>>>> wouldn't turn me on.
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>> in summary, a one-size-fits-all site is prolly not going to be
>> >>> >>>>>> effective, a traditional user-voted content site will be at
>> >>> >>>>>> risk
>> >>> >>>>>> of
>> >>> >>>>>> being manipulated, so it's finding a happy medium between these
>> >>> >>>>>> two.
>> >>> >>>>>> Also, i need to prevent putting people off from submitting
>> >>> >>>>>> resources to
>> >>> >>>>>> the site - so constructive criticism should be given where
>> >>> >>>>>> necessary.
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>> On paper it could be a lot of things, so i'm going to try and
>> >>> >>>>>> start
>> >>> >>>>>> with
>> >>> >>>>>> the core goal, and hopefully work outwards!
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>> Any other ideas/suggestions?
>> >>> >>>>>> --
>> >>> >>>>>> Pending work: http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/
>> >>> >>>>>> List archives: http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>> --
>> >>> >>>>> Pending work: http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/
>> >>> >>>>> List archives: http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>> --
>> >>> >>>> Pending work: http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/
>> >>> >>>> List archives: http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>> --
>> >>> >>> Pending work: http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/
>> >>> >>> List archives: http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >> --
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>> >>> >>
>> >>> >
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>> >>> >
>> >>>
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>> >>
>> >>
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>> >
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