[support] different TinyMCE problems

[Jean Gazis]

Well, I'm not pasting form Word (I hate Word) but I don't understand this: "SO
if you're doing a bunch of pasting from Word, it will still leave the tags
in the HTML that gets stored in Drupal.  This only bothers you when you turn
off the editor, or if you have some other process trying to get at the data.
TinyMCE tag filters can only be set by implementing a special function in
your theme. "

How do I know what the tiny MCE tags are? I just see some HTML tags.

Jean

On 8/17/07, Metzler, David <metzlerd at evergreen.edu> wrote:
>
>  An important thing to note:  Changing the default filter does *not* *change
> any content*.  If you're changing the input formats from FilteredHTML
> to Full HTML, and you had previously created a node as "Filtered
> HTML" changing the default won't change the original nodes input format.
> You must have administer filters privilege and change the input format on
> *each node*. If you instead edit the allowed tag list for the "Filtered
> HTML" input format, then you don't have to update each node.  Hope that
> makes sense.
>
> Correspondingly, unless you're using "Filter Defaults" or some other
> module that alters this.  Drupal out of the can does not support Content
> Type specific filters. The input formats are set on a per node basis.
>
> FYI:  I have configured TinyMCE to filter out html tags as well in some
> cases.  Input formats filter out HTML on display and not input.  SO if
> you're doing a bunch of pasting from Word, it will still leave the tags in
> the HTML that gets stored in Drupal.  This only bothers you when you turn
> off the editor, or if you have some other process trying to get at the data.
> TinyMCE tag filters can only be set by implementing a special function in
> your theme. There's no place to "configure" this in the DB.
>
> Dave
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>  *From:* support-bounces at drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces at drupal.org] *On
> Behalf Of *sander-martijn
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 16, 2007 2:17 PM
> *To:* support at drupal.org
> *Subject:* Re: [support] different TinyMCE problems
>
> I've always thought the opposite of TinyMCE (or any wysiwyg editor).  It's
> not necessarily to restrict your users from using html but more to remove
> the requirement of knowing html.
>
> However I do think you can get what you want: I think that if you turn on
> full html globally but turn off the option for users to select, require
> TinyMCE (also can be done globally I believe) and don't include the html
> button in the TinyMCE editor, then TinyMCE will be able to write all the
> html it needs to (restricting html will restrict it from TinyMCE as well -
> this is because TinyMCE is merely a front-end mask to what's really
> happening) while the user will never be able to see or edit it.
>
> Jean Gazis wrote:
>
> If <ul> and <li> are enabled, shouldn't the bulleted list format button
> work? I don't see where to associate the input format with a content type. I
> don't want to give all users full HTML, that's the whole point of installing
> TinyMCE. If I turn off line breaks in my default format, won't it mess up my
> other content types? I think that was why I turned them on. And TinyMCE
> worked or works sometimes with the default input format as is. I feel like I
> am just being dense.
>
> On 8/16/07, Metzler, David <metzlerd at evergreen.edu> wrote:
> >
> >  Yes as sara has indicated.  You can change the defaults at
> >
> > Administer -> Site Configuration -> Input Formats.
> >
> > If you "Configure" the default format. Then select the Configure tab,
> > you'll be able to set which tags are allowed.  The default set is
> > <a> <em> <strong> <cite> <code> <ul> <ol> <li> <dl> <dt> <dd>
> >
> > When you enable tinymce you might also consider turning off the "line
> > break converter" on this screen as well.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >  ------------------------------
> > *From:* support-bounces at drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces at drupal.org] *On
> > Behalf Of *Jean Gazis
> > *Sent:* Thursday, August 16, 2007 12:48 PM
> > *To:* support at drupal.org
> > *Subject:* Re: [support] different TinyMCE problems
> >
> > I don't want the users to have to select input formats, I want them to
> > be set for the content type or field type. Is that possible?
> >
> > On 8/16/07, Sarah Adams <mr.sanders at geekjock.ca> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I installed it, set up roles etc. It seemed to work fine with the
> > > first
> > > > custom content type. A few days later, it does not. In between I
> > > > installed Views and Viewfield, and created a new content type.
> > > >
> > > > What I'm getting is, instead of formatted text, e.g. bulleted list,
> > > it
> > > > just puts <br> or <div> between the items and removes the line
> > > breaks,
> > > > like this:
> > > >
> > > > "vegetable<br /> fruit<br /> vegetable<br /> fruit<br /> fruit<br />
> > >
> > > > vegetable<br /> veggie<br /> fruit <br /> veg"
> > > >
> > > > I'm sure this is some stupid thing I could figure out somehow, but I
> > > > can't figure out where to start.
> > >
> > > You probably have the content set to use filtered html instead of full
> > >
> > > html. You can update this on a content item basis by clicking on input
> > > formats just below the TinyMCE editor, or site-wide by going to admin
> > > >
> > > site config > input formats.
> > >
> > > HTH!
> > >
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> >
> >
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> > www.boxofrain.us
> >
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> sander-martijn <sander at sander-martijn.com>
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Jean Gazis
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www.boxofrain.us

"Believe those who are seeking the truth; doubt those who find it." - André
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