[support] different TinyMCE problems
sander-martijn
sander at sander-martijn.com
Mon Aug 20 15:30:38 UTC 2007
Ok, well since word drops in all kinds of wierd html when pasting and
it's such a common way for nonhtml people to work, do you (or someone
else) already have a list of html to strip out for word specifically?
And where do you configure that?
on another note: TinyMCE has a paste from word button you can show, and
I believe if you train users to use that icon instead of the normal
paste it will paste in plain text instead of word's formatted text. In
your experience does that button work well?
Metzler, David wrote:
> Didn't mean TinyMCE has tags, but rather that you can build filters
> into TinyMCE. So that the HTML that you're worried not having on your
> site is not only not displayed, but also not stored in the database.
>
> Let me try and rephrase....
>
> "SO if you're doing a bunch of pasting from Word, it will still
> leave any weird word generated tags in the HTML that gets stored in
> Drupal, even if you have them filtered out by a drupal input filter.
> This only bothers you when you turn off the editor, or if you have
> some other process trying to get at the data that doesn't properly use
> the filters.
>
> You can also configure TinyMCE to filter tags, but these filters can
> only be set by implementing a special function in your theme, and
> can't be set via a configuration page. If you filter the tags out with
> TinyMCE as well, tags you don't want users entering won't be stored
> in the database either.
>
> Hope that makes more sense.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* support-bounces at drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces at drupal.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Jean Gazis
> *Sent:* Friday, August 17, 2007 10:30 PM
> *To:* support at drupal.org
> *Subject:* Re: [support] different TinyMCE problems
>
> Well, I'm not pasting form Word (I hate Word) but I don't understand
> this: "SO if you're doing a bunch of pasting from Word, it will still
> leave the tags in the HTML that gets stored in Drupal. This only
> bothers you when you turn off the editor, or if you have some other
> process trying to get at the data. TinyMCE tag filters can only be set
> by implementing a special function in your theme. "
>
> How do I know what the tiny MCE tags are? I just see some HTML tags.
>
> Jean
>
> On 8/17/07, *Metzler, David *<metzlerd at evergreen.edu
> <mailto:metzlerd at evergreen.edu>> wrote:
>
> An important thing to note: Changing the default filter does
> *not* *change any content*. If you're changing the input formats
> from FilteredHTML to Full HTML, and you had previously created a
> node as "Filtered HTML" changing the default won't change
> the original nodes input format. You must have administer filters
> privilege and change the input format on *each node*. If you
> instead edit the allowed tag list for the "Filtered HTML" input
> format, then you don't have to update each node. Hope that makes
> sense.
>
> Correspondingly, unless you're using "Filter Defaults" or some
> other module that alters this. Drupal out of the can does not
> support Content Type specific filters. The input formats are set
> on a per node basis.
>
> FYI: I have configured TinyMCE to filter out html tags as well in
> some cases. Input formats filter out HTML on display and not
> input. SO if you're doing a bunch of pasting from Word, it will
> still leave the tags in the HTML that gets stored in Drupal. This
> only bothers you when you turn off the editor, or if you have some
> other process trying to get at the data. TinyMCE tag filters can
> only be set by implementing a special function in your theme.
> There's no place to "configure" this in the DB.
>
> Dave
>
>
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> *From:* support-bounces at drupal.org
> <mailto:support-bounces at drupal.org>[mailto:support-bounces at drupal.org
> <mailto:support-bounces at drupal.org>] *On Behalf Of *sander-martijn
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 16, 2007 2:17 PM
>
> *To:* support at drupal.org <mailto:support at drupal.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [support] different TinyMCE problems
>
> I've always thought the opposite of TinyMCE (or any wysiwyg
> editor). It's not necessarily to restrict your users from using
> html but more to remove the requirement of knowing html.
>
> However I do think you can get what you want: I think that if you
> turn on full html globally but turn off the option for users to
> select, require TinyMCE (also can be done globally I believe) and
> don't include the html button in the TinyMCE editor, then TinyMCE
> will be able to write all the html it needs to (restricting html
> will restrict it from TinyMCE as well - this is because TinyMCE is
> merely a front-end mask to what's really happening) while the user
> will never be able to see or edit it.
>
> Jean Gazis wrote:
>> If <ul> and <li> are enabled, shouldn't the bulleted list format
>> button work? I don't see where to associate the input format with
>> a content type. I don't want to give all users full HTML, that's
>> the whole point of installing TinyMCE. If I turn off line breaks
>> in my default format, won't it mess up my other content types? I
>> think that was why I turned them on. And TinyMCE worked or works
>> sometimes with the default input format as is. I feel like I am
>> just being dense.
>>
>> On 8/16/07, *Metzler, David* <metzlerd at evergreen.edu
>> <mailto:metzlerd at evergreen.edu>> wrote:
>>
>> Yes as sara has indicated. You can change the defaults at
>>
>> Administer -> Site Configuration -> Input Formats.
>>
>> If you "Configure" the default format. Then select the
>> Configure tab, you'll be able to set which tags are allowed.
>> The default set is
>> <a> <em> <strong> <cite> <code> <ul> <ol> <li> <dl> <dt> <dd>
>>
>> When you enable tinymce you might also consider turning off
>> the "line break converter" on this screen as well.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* support-bounces at drupal.org
>> <mailto:support-bounces at drupal.org> [mailto:
>> support-bounces at drupal.org
>> <mailto:support-bounces at drupal.org>] *On Behalf Of *Jean Gazis
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 16, 2007 12:48 PM
>> *To:* support at drupal.org <mailto:support at drupal.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [support] different TinyMCE problems
>>
>> I don't want the users to have to select input formats, I
>> want them to be set for the content type or field type. Is
>> that possible?
>>
>> On 8/16/07, *Sarah Adams *<mr.sanders at geekjock.ca
>> <mailto:mr.sanders at geekjock.ca>> wrote:
>>
>> > I installed it, set up roles etc. It seemed to work fine
>> with the first
>> > custom content type. A few days later, it does not. In
>> between I
>> > installed Views and Viewfield, and created a new content
>> type.
>> >
>> > What I'm getting is, instead of formatted text, e.g.
>> bulleted list, it
>> > just puts <br> or <div> between the items and removes
>> the line breaks,
>> > like this:
>> >
>> > "vegetable<br /> fruit<br /> vegetable<br /> fruit<br />
>> fruit<br />
>> > vegetable<br /> veggie<br /> fruit <br /> veg"
>> >
>> > I'm sure this is some stupid thing I could figure out
>> somehow, but I
>> > can't figure out where to start.
>>
>> You probably have the content set to use filtered html
>> instead of full
>> html. You can update this on a content item basis by
>> clicking on input
>> formats just below the TinyMCE editor, or site-wide by
>> going to admin >
>> site config > input formats.
>>
>> HTH!
>>
>> --
>> sarah adams
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