[consulting] REVISED RFP FOR DRUPAL DEVELOPER

Ken Williams kwilliam at aed.org
Thu Nov 11 21:36:15 UTC 2010


hi Christian, the budget changed because I got permission to put more of
my time on our overhead budget rather than the grant.
 
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>>> Christian Pearce <pearcec at xforty.com> 11/11/2010 4:03 PM >>>
I think this sums it up quite nice.

http://www.slideshare.net/Advomatic/put-the-rfp-down 

I was considering this one RFP that had hard deadlines.  And decided to
blow it off,.  The time line came and went, then I got an email saying
they extended it.  Of course they did, there estimates suck and so do
ours.

The fact this budget went from 12k-18k proves they don't have a fixed
budget.   Funny thing is we ALWAYS ask people what their budget is.  But
that is more to gain an appreication of what size venue they want to
play in.

I am just reminded of this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2a8TRSgzZY 


----- "Victor Kane" <victorkane at gmail.com> wrote: 
> Both Joel and Christopher were dialoging and what's more, they were
right. And what's more, they were helpful, on both sides. Went from 12
to 18 in ten minutes. And with the acknowledgement that custom dev would
be more, and with the acknowledgement that it depends also on the real
requirements (word conversion? yes? no?).

> 
Now that's a consultants forum!

> 
I've been tiredly explaining to people all week why fixed rate
"budgets" are a waste of time for everyone, this really brought it
home.

> 
Victor Kane
http://awebfactory.com.ar 
> 
> > On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Matt Chapman
<matt at ninjitsuweb.com> wrote:
> 

I didn't perceive or intend any "skewering." Seemed to me it was
> consultants offering friendly advice about how to make an RFP more
> attractive to developers. I'm going to guess the client who prefer
> /high-quality skills/ in their service provider over mere
/ambition/.
> 
> Even "ambitious developers" can get things done cheap, but rarely
fast
> or good. Heck, that describes my first year of Durpal consulting. I
> gave a lot of people some great deals, but if I could do far better
> work in half the time rebuilding those same sites today. But then
and
> now, I wouldn't commit to a fixed timeline that short.
> 
> All the Best,
> 
> Matt
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Sean Effel
<admin at drupaltherapy.com> wrote:
> > This list is a good way to connect clients and developers, but
skewering
> > RFP authors will weaken this venue for all of us.
> >
> > What's more, I believe it's unprofessional to scrutinize potential
> > projects in a public forum.  If one has doubts about the
feasibility of
> > an RFP then the choices are to either take it up with the author
> > privately or let the opportunity pass on to a more ambitious
developer.
> >
> > Sean Effel
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.drupaltherapy.com 
> 

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