[drupal-support] Article Content and taxonomies

Thu Jun 9 17:39:33 UTC 2005

Hi Andrew,

I see what you mean about volume  and issue.
The only reason we want this is because we are actually going to publish the
content in a printedmagazine once a week.  Each community will have a
specialized publication.

Do you think we'll be able to pull the data based on the date and time
instead?
Do you know if you can copy a taxonomy and all it's terms to a new taxonomy
with a new name?

Also,
I am still stuck on the problem of how to keep the content in the
"Community" catagory organized in a "magazine" order.
I think I can nail down this problem by using the taxonomy-browser as the
primary interface to the content.
Since I have over 60 terms, I figure we need maybe 3 or 4 primary
catagories.

My problem is that since I can not see what it looks like; I lost my eye
site when I was 2; I am not sure of the best way to organize the interface
for online viewing and also have the content in such a format that it is
easily exported for lay out and printing.

Before, I had all the content in one huge taxonomy which created like sixty
options in the drop down menu of the taxonomy-browser.
I decided to break it up in to a few taxonomies.  What I have come up with
so far is the following:
 The idea is to set it up like a newspaper.

Catagory: Community News, Information, & Blogs

Catagory: Local Business News, Information, and Blogs

Catagory: Local Real Estate News, Information, and Blogs

Catagory: Public Data and Records

Catagory: Community Guides and Directories

Catagory: Community Classifieds

Catagory: Choose Your Community

Catagory: Volume, Issue, and Date

Catagory: Consortium Services and Products

I originally had it all in three catagories:

Catagory: News, Information, Blogs

Catagory: Community:

Catagory: Issue:

Here is an example of what is under the "Primary

Content" catagory

Term:  Community News & Information

Under Terms:

 Citizen Blogs

Community Commentary

Community Events and Announcements

Crime Watch

Commics

Art Galary - Artists Corner and Displays

Public Poetry

Music and Musicians

Term: Business News and Information

under Terms:

 Local Business News

Sales and Marketing Roundtable

Management Tips and stories

Terms: Real Estate News & Information

Under Terms:

Real Estate Education

Mortgage Information

Property Insurance Information

Terms: News and Information from Community Public

records

Under Terms:

Real Estate Auctions

Trusty & Estate Auctions

Term: Community Services and Directories

Under:

Emergency, medical, and Government Resources

Community Restaurant guide

Community Yellow Pages - Business Directory

Community Activity and Entertainment Guide

Community Real Estate Listings and Sales Guide

Community Lodging and Rentals Directory

Term: Classifieds

Under Term:

Classifieds - General sales

Classifieds Businesses For Sale

Classifieds - Business for Lease

Classifieds - commercial real estate for sale

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Best Regards

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrew Cohill" <cohill at designnine.com>
To: <drupal-support at drupal.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 6:21 AM
Subject: Re: [drupal-support] Article Content and taxonomies

>
> On Jun 9, 2005, at 4:02 AM, Christopher Taylor wrote:
> >
> > I don't know if Flexinode will work because the content will be
> > created by
> > Citizens and Members.
> > THey way not pay attention to volume and issue number per say.
> >
> >
>
> If you have a relatively large group of untrained people creating
> content, in my experience you have to limit both the number of
> taxonomies and the number of items in each taxonomy.  People don't like
> to have to figure out how to classify things, and often do it
> incorrectly or not at all, which defeats your plan.
>
> remember that every node already has a date and time on it, so it may
> not be necessary to add that again.
>
> I wonder if just two taxonomies would work.
>
> One taxonomy would be a list of the communities.
>
> The second taxonomy would be a list of topics.
>
> This will allow you to categorize material according by community and
> by topic.
>
> The Volume and Issue information will be of relatively low value, since
> I can promise almost no one will ever try to retrieve anything that
> way.  No one will say, "I want to find an article in Volume Two, Issue
> 5." And really, that style of classification is an anachronism designed
> to help librarians retrieve physical books. It does not add much value
> when you have full text search capabilities.
>
> Instead, they will say, "I want to find that article about growing
> apples in your backyard."  And they will most likely use the full text
> search to find the article, not a taxonomy.
>
> I call this the "big bucket, small bucket" problem.  When developing a
> system, the designers often try to create a large number of small
> buckets on the theory that highly classified information is good, since
> many of us grew up with libraries, which have detailed classification
> systems.  But those systems evolved in the absence of good search
> tools.
>
> My preference is to start with a small number of large buckets, because
> there are fewer places to look for information.  With many small
> buckets (multiple taxonomies with many items), users have to go from
> bucket to bucket, saying, in essence, "Is it in here?  No.  Is it in
> here? No.  Is it in here?  No.....and so on."
>
> If your system is successful and gets lots of use, you can add
> additional taxonomies and categories as you see what is popular.
>
> Best regards,
> Andrew
> -------------------------------------------------
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