[support] Making some changes to my Drupal

[Reynier Perez Mira]

Hi again Larry:
Before all thanks for your reply again.  After send the email I do a intensive check in all the themes directory and found that the same files, except .engine", in every directory have similarity, I mean in the code. So I made a backup and then edit the files like block.tpl.php for example and get the expect result. This put me happy because I end my job for now. I just need playing now with CSS styles for make the site.
Cheers and thanks for all
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-----Mensaje original-----
De: support-bounces at drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces at drupal.org] En nombre de Larry Garfield
Enviado el: sábado, 25 de noviembre de 2006 11:22 am
Para: support at drupal.org
Asunto: Re: [support] Making some changes to my Drupal

Don't change the files in the phptemplate engine directory!  Copy them to you own theme and edit them there.  They're designed to "override" like that.  
Never edit a file that's part of the core distribution, as that makes maintenance and upgrading a nightmare.  

Really though, if your client is demanding exactly how the HTML looks, not just requiring that it validate (which I'm fine with), then the client should be doing it himself.  Any CMS is going to have HTML output that does't look perfectly hand-crafted, because, well, it isn't hand-crafted.  That's the point. :-)

On Saturday 25 November 2006 09:24, Reynier Perez Mira wrote:
> Hi Larry and thanks for your reply:
> I know that make or edit a theme is easy. Me use Smarty in some 
> projects weeks ago and in "Drupal Modules" repostory I found something 
> related to Smarty. I know also that Drupal use by default PHPTemplate 
> and follow the instructions in Drupal Tutorials I make a simple theme, 
> one using Smarty as enginee and another using PHPTemplate. I know too 
> that Drupal generate valid XHTMLStrint/CSS  pages but this people want 
> more. Anyway I check the themes/engines/phptemplate directory and see 
> some files with the default settings. So I make some changes there and 
> then try to see if this is that they want. Cheers
> --
> ReynierPM
> 5to Ing. Informática
> Maestro de poco, aprendiz de mucho
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: support-bounces at drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces at drupal.org] En 
> nombre de Larry Garfield Enviado el: sábado, 25 de noviembre de 2006 
> 12:09 am
> Para: support at drupal.org
> Asunto: Re: [support] Making some changes to my Drupal
>
> Hi, Reynier.  Drupal's default theme output can be tricky at times 
> because it's so heavy, I agree.  However, all default themes and all 
> core modules output valid XHTML Strict and CSS, by design.  The 
> example you gave, for instance, is valid XHTML Strict and CSS.  
> "div.title h2" is a perfectly valid CSS selector.
>
> So if someone insists that you output valid XHTML/CSS, then Drupal 
> does that by default.  (What you do in your own theme is your 
> business, of course. <g>) If, however, they want something with fewer 
> CSS hooks (fewer nested <div> tags, for instance), then you'll need to 
> override theme functions to change the HTML that gets generated.  See 
> the theme developers handbook for ways to go about doing that:
>
> http://drupal.org/node/509
>
> 90% of the time you'll only be interested in the PHPTemplate theme 
> system, as that's what almost everyone uses.  XTemplate is deprecated 
> and shouldn't be used anymore.
>
> Cheers.
>
> On Friday 24 November 2006 23:26, Reynier Perez Mira wrote:
> > Hi to every:
> > I'm newbiew working with Drupal and right now some people ask me for 
> > a clean page. What that's mean? Made only using CSS and XHTML valid 
> > both of them. I take a look at some tutorials in Drupal site but I'm 
> > encountered with some others problems. For example some parts, by 
> > default, have this: <h2 class="title">Something here</h2>. But I 
> > don't want really, I want something like that: <div 
> > class="title"><h2>something here/h2></div>, why? Simply: when I try to apply a padding to the class:
> > h2.title the CSS rules logically move the entire element and I don't 
> > looking for that. I only need move the content of the element with class:
> > title. See a little example
> > below:
> >
> > <h2 class="title">Something here</h2>
> >
> > CSS rules:
> > h2.title { line-height: 25px; padding: 0 0 0 10px; /* Move element 
> > 10px from the right to the left */ }
> >
> > Now If I have this:
> > <div class="title"><h2>something here/h2></div>
> >
> > And then the some changes in my CSS rules:
> > .title h2 { padding: 0 0 0 10px; /* Move text 10px from the right to 
> > the left */ }
> >
> > This is what I'm looking for. Understand?
> > Cheers, thanks in advance and soury for my poor English
> > --
> > ReynierPM
> > 5to Ing. Informática
> > Maestro de poco, aprendiz de mucho
>
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