[support] current wiki tools in drupal

[Shai Gluskin]

Ari,

Thanks for the link and the nice list of modules. I didn't know about all of
them.

That hyperlink in your post isn't working. Did you copy it wrong or is it
just down for the moment.

I can't find the node lock module that you reference. Can you point it to
me?

Regarding "Talk" -- from a UI perspective I think it is one of the worst
things about mediawiki. I think that Drupal's stock comments implementation
on the same page as the node is much better than having a talk page on a
separate page.

I saw you walking by once at DrupalCon but couldn't grab you cause I was
going in another direction. So many people at DrupalCon!

Best,

Shai

On 3/7/08, Ari Davidow <aridavidow at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Good points. Roetzi's sample drupal page (http://test.tschannen.net/ )
> makes a point of including diff and recent changes, I presume for exactly
> the reason you describe, as well as node lock (two or more people
> simultaneously editing?), talk (for the metadiscussion), along with pearwiki
> filter and wikitools.
>
> ari
>
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Shai Gluskin <shai at content2zero.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Ari and folks,
> >
> > To me the core functionalities of a Wiki are:
> > 1. Versioning - each change is preserved
> > 2. Diff - users can compare versions
> > 3. Multiple user edit privileges to the same text (e.g. "node" in Drupal
> > speak).
> >
> > So lets apply that to Drupal.
> > 1. Versioning is built in. Just make sure on the content-type edit page
> > under workflow that revisions is turned on.
> >
> > 2. Diff - you need a module for that. Fortunately the diff module<http://drupal.org/project/diff>is excellent and well developed/maintained.
> >
> > 3. The editing privileges you should be able to handle without adding
> > any modules -- as long as the Wiki pages on your site get their own
> > content-type - which you can do even without CCK (as long as you don't add
> > any fields).
> >
> > Starting with D5 you can use the Book module for nodes that have content
> > types other than book. This is awesome. You do have to create one node for
> > each book that was created using the book content-type. But then any node
> > can be assigned to it via an "outline" tab which appears. However, this
> > relates to the navigation/page organization you want to provide for folks --
> > and there are other solutions to using the Book module.
> >
> > I do find there is a lot of confusion out there about what a Wiki is. I
> > know a lot of teachers use Wikispaces.com simply as a place to build web
> > pages, for themselves and for their students, with no intention of
> > collaborative writing, manual creation, multiple editors for the same page,
> > etc. My feeling is those pages aren't Wikis.
> >
> > Shai
> >
> >
> > On 3/7/08, Ari Davidow <aridavidow at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > We're beginning to describe a Drupal project that we feel is
> > > "wiki-ish" and I am thoroughly confused as to what would be needed to
> > > implement a "wiki" using drupal. It looks like wikitools provides some
> > > filters to translate between wiki markup and regular html, but for our
> > > purposes, that is the piece we care about least. (We intend to use tinyMCE
> > > or equivalent for markup--the users of this project will not be any happier
> > > with wiki markup than with html.)
> > >
> > > So, what makes a page a wiki? We are thinking of a few primary
> > > elements:
> > >
> > > 1. The ability of any registered user to edit the page in a browser.
> > > (Note: Any registered Drupal user with appropriate permissions can do this
> > > with any Drupal page, as well.)
> > >
> > > 2. The ability to view the page's history and to roll back changes
> > > easily. (This may also be built into Drupal?)
> > >
> > > 3. The ability to create a new, blank page by creating a link to it.
> > >
> > > Are we really just talking about a standard Drupal book? When other
> > > people say 'wiki,' to what more are they referring (or is the "what more"
> > > wiki markup language?)
> > >
> > > ari
> > >
> > >
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