[support] current wiki tools in drupal

[Ari Davidow]

http://test.tschannen.net/ not working? I just tried it out and it seems to
work fine.
The node lock module may be roetzi's own--see the address on his test page:
http://cvs.drupal.org/viewvc.py/drupal/contributions/sandbox/roetzi/node_lock/

ari

On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Shai Gluskin <shai at content2zero.com> wrote:

> Ari,
>
> Thanks for the link and the nice list of modules. I didn't know about all
> of them.
>
> That hyperlink in your post isn't working. Did you copy it wrong or is it
> just down for the moment.
>
> I can't find the node lock module that you reference. Can you point it to
> me?
>
> Regarding "Talk" -- from a UI perspective I think it is one of the worst
> things about mediawiki. I think that Drupal's stock comments implementation
> on the same page as the node is much better than having a talk page on a
> separate page.
>
> I saw you walking by once at DrupalCon but couldn't grab you cause I was
> going in another direction. So many people at DrupalCon!
>
> Best,
>
>
> Shai
>
> On 3/7/08, Ari Davidow <aridavidow at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Good points. Roetzi's sample drupal page (http://test.tschannen.net/ )
> > makes a point of including diff and recent changes, I presume for exactly
> > the reason you describe, as well as node lock (two or more people
> > simultaneously editing?), talk (for the metadiscussion), along with pearwiki
> > filter and wikitools.
> >
> > ari
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Shai Gluskin <shai at content2zero.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Ari and folks,
> > >
> > > To me the core functionalities of a Wiki are:
> > > 1. Versioning - each change is preserved
> > > 2. Diff - users can compare versions
> > > 3. Multiple user edit privileges to the same text (e.g. "node" in
> > > Drupal speak).
> > >
> > > So lets apply that to Drupal.
> > > 1. Versioning is built in. Just make sure on the content-type edit
> > > page under workflow that revisions is turned on.
> > >
> > > 2. Diff - you need a module for that. Fortunately the diff module<http://drupal.org/project/diff>is excellent and well developed/maintained.
> > >
> > > 3. The editing privileges you should be able to handle without adding
> > > any modules -- as long as the Wiki pages on your site get their own
> > > content-type - which you can do even without CCK (as long as you don't add
> > > any fields).
> > >
> > > Starting with D5 you can use the Book module for nodes that have
> > > content types other than book. This is awesome. You do have to create one
> > > node for each book that was created using the book content-type. But then
> > > any node can be assigned to it via an "outline" tab which appears. However,
> > > this relates to the navigation/page organization you want to provide for
> > > folks -- and there are other solutions to using the Book module.
> > >
> > > I do find there is a lot of confusion out there about what a Wiki is.
> > > I know a lot of teachers use Wikispaces.com simply as a place to build
> > > web pages, for themselves and for their students, with no intention of
> > > collaborative writing, manual creation, multiple editors for the same page,
> > > etc. My feeling is those pages aren't Wikis.
> > >
> > > Shai
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/7/08, Ari Davidow <aridavidow at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > We're beginning to describe a Drupal project that we feel is
> > > > "wiki-ish" and I am thoroughly confused as to what would be needed to
> > > > implement a "wiki" using drupal. It looks like wikitools provides some
> > > > filters to translate between wiki markup and regular html, but for our
> > > > purposes, that is the piece we care about least. (We intend to use tinyMCE
> > > > or equivalent for markup--the users of this project will not be any happier
> > > > with wiki markup than with html.)
> > > >
> > > > So, what makes a page a wiki? We are thinking of a few primary
> > > > elements:
> > > >
> > > > 1. The ability of any registered user to edit the page in a browser.
> > > > (Note: Any registered Drupal user with appropriate permissions can do this
> > > > with any Drupal page, as well.)
> > > >
> > > > 2. The ability to view the page's history and to roll back changes
> > > > easily. (This may also be built into Drupal?)
> > > >
> > > > 3. The ability to create a new, blank page by creating a link to it.
> > > >
> > > > Are we really just talking about a standard Drupal book? When other
> > > > people say 'wiki,' to what more are they referring (or is the "what more"
> > > > wiki markup language?)
> > > >
> > > > ari
> > > >
> > > >
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