[support] Organic Groups

Hasti Ziaimatin h.ziaimatin at uq.edu.au
Wed Feb 9 05:47:10 UTC 2011


Hi Shai,

I’m using content access and ACL as you suggested in your first email from the following:

Content access: http://drupal.org/project/content_access (a lot of work is being done on the D7 version at: http://drupal.org/node/690610)
ACL: http://drupal.org/project/acl (there is already a D7 beta version)
I also have the Organic Groups module installed. I got the impression that in order to do fine grained access control for a group, I need to also install content access and ACL. If I turn off content access and ACL, is there any other way to perform such fine grained access control through Organic Groups? I’m mainly interested in per group access control as a role in one group may have different access requirements in comparison to the same role in another group. I know that in the Groups tab for every group that comes with the Organic Groups module, there is a link called Roles and another link called Permissions that display access requirements for different roles for that group; however, in my installation they are always read-only (please find attached an image that depicts this), so I can’t configure/change them for the group. If there was a way through which I could unlock these configurations, then I wouldn’t need content access and ACL.
Thanks again for your replies and assistance.
Kind Regards,
Sara


From: support-bounces at drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces at drupal.org] On Behalf Of Shai Gluskin
Sent: Wednesday, 9 February 2011 3:05 PM
To: support at drupal.org
Subject: Re: [support] Organic Groups

Sara,

Are you using an additional content access module besides the one that comes with OG. If so, try turning that off.  And which one is it?

500 errors often have to do with permission errors.

Does Drupal Gardens have OG? If so you should do this at Acquia's Drupal Gardens. You'll get a more stable environment that way.

Know that the fact that you

1. Have complicated requirements
2. Are running very new versions of this complex software
3. Are running on Windows (should work but far fewer people using it to help you with your server errors... Personally I would never run Drupal on Windows)

makes your environment not very stable and so difficult to work/get help for.

Shai

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 8, 2011, at 11:21 PM, Hasti Ziaimatin <h.ziaimatin at uq.edu.au<mailto:h.ziaimatin at uq.edu.au>> wrote:
Hi Shai,

Thank you for your reply. I have tried turning off the overlay module. This results in an HTTP 500 Internal Server Error with the message: “The website cannot display the page” when I try to access the access control tab for a group.

Kind Regards,
Sara

From: support-bounces at drupal.org<mailto:support-bounces at drupal.org> [mailto:support-bounces at drupal.org] On Behalf Of Shai Gluskin
Sent: Wednesday, 9 February 2011 2:14 PM
To: support at drupal.org<mailto:support at drupal.org>
Subject: Re: [support] Organic Groups

Hi Sara,

Glad you made at least some progress.

Turn off the overlay! I think it is a separate module you turn off. (I helped with some testing of 7 about a year ago for about three months... but I haven't used 7 in at least 9 months and don't have it installed on any sites now).

Report back and tell us if that solves the problem.

Shai

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 8:53 PM, Hasti Ziaimatin <h.ziaimatin at uq.edu.au<mailto:h.ziaimatin at uq.edu.au>> wrote:
Hi Shai,

Thank you very much for your reply. I have followed your suggestions and now have an access control configuration tab for both the group content type as well as for each group created. However, the access control tab for a group, which appears as a result of enabling the “Enable per content node access control settings” checkbox in the group content type Access control configurations, isn’t accessible due to the following error:

Webpage error details
User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET4.0C; .NET4.0E)
Timestamp: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 01:45:07 UTC
Message: Permission denied
Line: 267
Char: 3
Code: 0
URI: http://localhost/drupal7/modules/overlay/overlay-parent.js?v=1.0

I have downloaded the latest build (690610_142.tar_.gz) for the content access module from the http://drupal.org/node/690610 website, extracted the contents using 7-Zip (as I’m working on windows); but I still get the same error. Therefore, I guess I can’t test the fine grained access configuration until group level access control config is working.

My other question is how can we associate a “group content” with a group? I create a group content and set Group audience to an existing group, but when I go to the group page, the content doesn’t appear under the group.

Your help is much appreciated.

Cheers,
Sara


From: support-bounces at drupal.org<mailto:support-bounces at drupal.org> [mailto:support-bounces at drupal.org<mailto:support-bounces at drupal.org>] On Behalf Of Shai Gluskin
Sent: Saturday, 5 February 2011 1:34 AM
To: support at drupal.org<mailto:support at drupal.org>
Subject: Re: [support] Organic Groups

HI Sara,

I haven't used Organic Groups for 7, but most of what you are trying to do is pretty straightforward. First I should say... if you need your site up ASAP and you don't have developer support, you might consider D6. In a month or two, things will be a lot better with D7, so if you can be patient obviously there are big advantages to D7.

Regarding per user access (only some members have access to...), you want:

 1.  Content access: http://drupal.org/project/content_access (a lot of work is being done on the D7 version at: http://drupal.org/node/690610)
 2.  ACL: http://drupal.org/project/acl (there is already a D7 beta version)
#4 built in to OG as long as you make the group "Private"
#5 only viewable by group. As long as you set the message to private this will work.
#6, built in basic to OG
#2, built in
#8, I'm not sure what you mean by "roles assigned to members of a group", like what for example. "Administering group members" is something that comes built in with Organic Groups and you don't use the Core-based permissions system. With the OG admin interface, any current group admin can assign another member of that group to also be an admin.
#9 The "audience" feature cover you there. On a per node (content) basis you can set the audience for that piece of content.

I think that gets you goin'.

Do report back,

Shai Gluskin
Owner, Content2zero Web Development
215-839-9001


On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 1:48 AM, Hasti Ziaimatin <h.ziaimatin at uq.edu.au<mailto:h.ziaimatin at uq.edu.au>> wrote:
Hi All,

I’m new to Drupal and have recently installed Drupal 7 release version and the Organic Groups (OG) module. However, I can’t seem to be able to configure permissions and roles to facilitate our access control specifications. I appreciate your help in providing me with a guideline to enable me to satisfy the following access control specifications:

Access control should be implemented for a knowledgebase system that facilitates collaborative knowledge management and research in a particular medical domain.


1.       Groups need to be created; these groups represent entities with knowledge and expertise in the particular medical domain

2.       Every group has an “owner” that can add members to the group

3.       The group owner loads/adds patient cases into the knowledgebase as content for the corresponding group

4.       Only members of the group can view these contents

5.       Contents loaded/added to a group cannot be viewed by members of other groups

6.       Members can only add content to the group/s of which they are a member

7.       Specific content in a group may need to be visible only to some members of the group

8.       Roles assigned to members of a group should be restricted to only that group unless the group owner specifically assigns that role to the user in another group.

9.       We would also like to look into enabling members of a group to have access to a subset of contents from another group.


Your help is much appreciated. I also looked at using OG User Roles (OGUR) ; however, this module isn’t available for Drupal 7.

Kind Regards,
Sara

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