Whenever there is a release we have these discussions. I don't disagree with what Drupal is all about. The issue is, most people don't relate to the concept of CMS. They relate to the concept of "The Blog" as this new way of creating websites. That's all my point. Keeping in mind how people "speak" and "relate" to web development in the real world doesn't take anything away from the power of Drupal. Something I took out of my article, I'm going to share here : The way you speak about Drupal is a fantastic way to sell it to other developers but it does nothing to a lot of people looking for a "blog platform on steroids". And by blog, remember, I am not referring to the technical word but to the mythical "The Blog" that people relate to as the key to web 2.0 success. I honestly believe a developers version of Drupal should be distributed. This would be your dream Drupal and it hopefully will create the space for creating distributions that actually speak to "mere mortals", aka "the market". It, for once, will give the opportunity to UI and UE people to focus on usability instead of just features or tools. Too many times I am told Drupal is hard to use. And you know what, it's true. The interface of Drupal is really not about the user experience. It's all about the features; which is cool for developers but not necessarily awesome for users. Most people don't want to see a menu with 120 choices, they just want to know that what they want to do they will be able to do it. Which is why when Chris says "just choose an input format", it's about simplifying the user experience, it's not about taking away anything from the back end. Good discussion, btw. -- Liza Sabater, Publisher culturekitchen.com dailygotham.com ________________________________________________ Message sent using UebiMiau 2.7.10