I'm not sure I posted this to the right list, but you guys should forgive me when I'm on the wrong track.. As you (probably) know, I'm designing/coding a new theme. I am using PHPTemplate for the first time in my life to create a full theme (please don't ask why). Now, on my road to get this darn theme working I noticed that the following code is used inside coore themes to place the primary/ secondary navigation: <?php if (isset($secondary_links)) { ?><?php print theme ('links', $secondary_links, array('class' =>'links', 'id' => 'subnavlist')) ?><?php } ?> and: <?php if (isset($primary_links)) { ?><?php print theme ('links', $primary_links, array('class' =>'links', 'id' => 'navlist')) ?><?php } ?> Now, my question is why do we do this? There is a block generated for every new 'menu list' which can be positioned into every region a theme supports. This is imo very weird.. Even weirder is the way before you get the links to display into the defined place using the method above. (Goto 'admin/build/menu/settings', set the 'Menu containing (primary| secondary) links'). I thought we had the blocks generated for that? I was totally confused.. it took me 2 hours to spit through PHPTemplate to find a bug, another hour to fid some settings which would popup this idea on my mind, and 2 minutes in #drupal to get the solution.. I hope you guys don't mind me saying this, but as someone who has been using drupal for 4 years now, this does not make any sense to me at all.. is this only me? Is there anyone who could think of a way on how we can improve this? Or am I all wrong, and is this usable "as is"? Kind regards, Steef