Guys Whether we like it or not, perception is everything. The original article gives Drupal high marks as the most feature laden CMS. His style and language are vulgar for sure, but as I pointed elsewhere, some people never get over high school style talk. Many don't differentiate between chat, email, blogs, and use the same trash talk everywhere. The rest of the comments do not stem from a vacuum though. Let us deal with the real issues (not the style) he raises (somehow) rather than be in denial, and go in ad hominem mode. (For the record: I love Drupal, and have been using it for almost two years. I initially wanted something to run my semi-abandoned web sites, and now it has become a passion on its own.) __________________ http://www.nascencetech.com/newvillageboy/2005/05/28/the-mumbo-jumbo-of-blog... "I'm using Drupal for a couple of community sites I run and it's not really by choice. It is by far the most feature-laden OpenSource content management engine there is. It's also a BITCH to use and customize. A couple of really weird user interface issues bug me to hell too. What in the name of HADES made them decide that a theme just had to affect the editing interface too? You got any idea how fuckin' troublesome it is to create a CSS file for all the editing widgets and forms that nobody except me sees? I'm still stuck using the downloaded themes for all my Drupal sites 'cos I simply can't be bothered with creating a whole new theme for it."