Issue status update for http://drupal.org/node/4109 Post a follow up: http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/4109 Project: Drupal Version: cvs Component: base system Category: bug reports Priority: normal Assigned to: Eric Scouten Reported by: Eric Scouten Updated by: djnz Status: patch (code needs review) Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/trans_sid.patch (1.4 KB) After further thought, there really is no point in appending the SID to a redirect url, so the attached patch solves this problem too. If anyone has a problem with session IDs in URLs after applying this patch, I'll offer them free hosting myself. Maybe. ;) djnz Previous comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 13 Nov 2003 00:22:39 +0000 : Eric Scouten Some URLs get ?PHPSESSID=(whatever) added to them. I find this distracting and unnecessary for anonymous users. Submitting patch #147 for consideration to remove this issue. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Dec 2003 14:39:25 +0000 : Kjartan This is a local PHP configuration issue. Don't see it as something Drupal should mess with, the less PHP settings Drupal messes with the better. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Dec 2003 15:11:33 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org Could you elaborate which config setting one has to tweak? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Dec 2003 15:18:11 +0000 : Anonymous php_flag session.use_trans_sid off php_flag session.use_only_cookies on The first will disable the automatic addition of the session ID to internal URLs, the second will remove support for passing session IDs in URLs. See http://php.net/session [1] for more info. BTW the above settings are for Apache, in PHP.ini you should not add the php_flag part, and you should use = inbetween the name and value... [1] http://php.net/session ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 07 Jun 2004 22:42:06 +0000 : shane It seems that Drupal (via the .htaccess file) already "messes with" a bunch of PHP settings. For example, my Drupal install "came with" these messed with settings: php_value register_globals 0 php_value track_vars 1 php_value short_open_tag 1 php_value magic_quotes_gpc 0 php_value magic_quotes_runtime 0 php_value magic_quotes_sybase 0 php_value arg_separator.output "&" php_value session.cache_expire 200000 php_value session.gc_maxlifetime 200000 php_value session.cookie_lifetime 2000000 php_value session.auto_start 0 php_value session.save_handler user php_value session.cache_limiter none php_value allow_call_time_pass_reference On I'm not sure that adding two more "php_value" flags to the stock .htaccess file is going to arguably mess with more than already is. Personally I find it extremely un-professional and very un-clean to have funky PHPSESSID url strings tacked onto a majority of my URLs. I've worked extremely hard to implement clean URLs (above and beyond the already great "clean url" feature of Drupal - I don't like them being turned into muck. I'd vote that these two flags be added to the .htaccess file that is distributed with Drupal. However, I'm uncertain of the overall true impact of making these changes, so barring an technical reason - I would absolutely request this as a feature. I've implemented these in many of my production sites already (just today) - we'll see what impact they have. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, 08 Jun 2004 02:56:00 +0000 : marky It's a performance thing. You need to remember that while not everyone has edit access to php.ini, those of us that do control our own servers see no need for .htaccess directives that set php options.
From the Apache docs [2]:
"Apache will look in every directory for .htaccess files. Thus, permitting .htaccess files causes a performance hit, whether or not you actually even use them! Also, the .htaccess file is loaded every time a document is requested." Ok, I'm lucky in that I control my own server, so I can effectively remove the .htaccess file and move its config options to php.ini and the vhost section of httpd.conf, thus speeding up the responsiveness of my server. But if you don't have that option there's nothing wrong with adding those directives to your directory .htaccess file. That's what it's for - it allows directory specific config options for those that don't have access to their server config. As Kjartan said, "the less PHP settings Drupal messes with the better". I've got to agree - as far as I'm concerned it's already big enough. The "php_value short_open_tag 1", "php_value session.auto_start 0" and "php_value session.cache_limiter none" for example serve little purpose, as they mirror the installation default settings (apart from the last, where the available options are: nocache, private or public). If you don't have the choice, use .htaccess, and add whatever directives you see fit. But please remember that not everyone uses it. Anyway, just my 2 beads. [2] http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/howto/htaccess.html#when ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, 08 Jun 2004 04:38:32 +0000 : cel4145 Why not add them, but commented out with an explanation? When I encountered this problem, I had to spend a little time on drupal.org finding the solution. However, I am familiar with the .htaccess file from doing installs. If it had been included there commented out, I would have probably remembered it. After all, this is much the same way that httpd.conf functions with it's many, optional, commented out configuration options. Just makes it easier when a non-standard configuration option has to be used. Besides, I've also seen many Drupal sites with this problem. I suspect that some of those sites would have implemented these flags if they had been an option in the .htaccess file. And it looks bad. People that visit the sites that don't know any better will assume it's Drupal, not the lack of proper PHP settings. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, 08 Jun 2004 10:39:27 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org It wouldn't hurt if Drupal had a better documented and possibly extended .htaccess file. Those who whish not to use it should really not care... session.save_handler = user should probably included as well. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, 08 Jun 2004 12:17:06 +0000 : robertDouglass If you use these settings: php_flag session.use_trans_sid off php_flag session.use_only_cookies on won't it make it so that people with cookies disabled cannot have session state? And if the PHPSESSID is in the URL, isn't that an indication that the browser being used refused to take a cookie? I'd really like clarification on this, if anyone knows the answers. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, 27 Jul 2004 13:25:46 +0000 : JonBob The original issue is definitely by design, as these URLs need the session ID to preserve the session when running under the given PHP settings. A better-documented .htaccess is a different issue entirely. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 19 Aug 2004 18:04:13 +0000 : gtoddv It hasn't been mentioned in this thread or anywhere else that I can find, but this session ID issue breaks validation. I don't know is this will cause accessibility issues too. I have tried the .htaccess fix and that doesn't change anything. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sat, 06 Nov 2004 07:17:21 +0000 : wazdog The non-validating problem is another problem with your server setup. PHP can be setup to used encoded &'s or not. Your server isn't if the url isn't validating. You'd have to talk to your server admin to fix that. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 30 Dec 2004 20:32:35 +0000 : m_freeman2004 This is what you have to include in the .htaccess file: # Fix for ?PHPSESSID in clean URLs php_value session.use_trans_sid 0 php_value session.use_only_cookies 1 # End of fix ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wed, 01 Jun 2005 19:07:53 +0000 : dr05 The code in .htaccess file: # Fix for ?PHPSESSID in clean URLs php_value session.use_trans_sid 0 php_value session.use_only_cookies 1 # End of fix don't work! Error: "Internal Server Error!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 14 Jul 2005 15:25:22 +0000 : jasonwhat Anyone else looking into this? Can one get rid of the id added onto the url but still keep the sessions going? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 25 Jul 2005 06:16:22 +0000 : Eric Scouten dr05, what version of Apache and what OS are you using? I've been using this same patch with no problems on Mac OS X, Linux, and FreeBSD-based servers using both Apache 1.3.x and 2.0.x. Attached patch will apply these changes to .htaccess. (IMHO, this is useful for the majority of users; those who are smart enough to understand the performance issues can comment out these lines.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 25 Jul 2005 06:57:18 +0000 : clydefrog You forgot the patch, Eric. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 25 Jul 2005 08:02:26 +0000 : Eric Scouten Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/htaccess-no-session-ids.patch (383 bytes) D'oh! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 25 Jul 2005 08:45:48 +0000 : kbahey There are cases where no parameter will fix this issue. On shared hosting systems where you do not have access to php.ini, and the hosting company has setup things in a way that they cannot be overriden. I found this out the hard way, after lobbying for the settings to be included in the init_set() statements in the settings.php prior to 4.6 being released. They are simply ignored on some hosts. On other hosts, you need to have a php.ini of your own, if suphp or SuExec is being used. In some cases, the only way to make things work is to compile your own PHP as a CGI (detailed writeup) [3]. This can have disadvantages too, such some performance impact, as well as excessive CPU utilization (hosting company may not like it). [3] http://baheyeldin.com/drupal/how-to-get-rid-of-phpsessid-in-drupal-and-other... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 25 Jul 2005 08:49:31 +0000 : kbahey Here is some references: issue 21170 [4], and a forum discussion [5]. [4] http://drupal.org/node/21170 [5] http://drupal.org/node/17947 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sat, 30 Jul 2005 16:24:47 +0000 : ufku in my case (shared hosting, ini_set() disabled) a php.ini file with only this line in it solved the problem. url_rewriter.tags = '' you should place the php.ini in your site's base directory ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sun, 07 Aug 2005 12:18:31 +0000 : djnz Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/rewrite_tags.patch (468 bytes) Drupal already attempts to change a number of values using ini_set() in settings.php, including session.use_trans_sid which should cure this problem. Unfortunately as already noted elsewhere [6], session.use_trans_sid only worked in ini_set() up to PHP 4.2.3. Rather than change the whole philosophy and change this setting in .htaccess or php.ini (neither of which work for many hosted set-ups), surely the answer is to correct settings.php as described The attached patch does just that - it is only one line. Note that session ids are still appended to the url when redirecting by Drupal eg after a POST. This is also easily patched [7], but as it is done deliberately (why?) I have left it alone. [6] http://drupal.org/node/17947#comment-36339 [7] http://drupal.org/node/25852#comment-45111 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sun, 07 Aug 2005 13:26:17 +0000 : kbahey PHPSESSIDs in the URL are a) ugly, b) negatively affects search engine indexing, and most importantly, c) is a security risk that can enable a malicious user to hijack your session. We should work on a solution to eliminate this once and for all, and for all configurations. The current approach (putting some PHP parameters in settings.php, or instructing users to change them in .htaccess or php.ini) has severe shorcomings: Whatever we do, there are bound to be some configurations that no amount of PHP parameters will cure. Some hosts deny their users the ability to change some or all of the above parameters. I discovered this the painful way with many hosts I have used, and friends and clients I have helped. I think we need to rethink this whole session thing, in a way that we are not dependant on idiosyncracies of various hosts and PHP configurations. Perhaps attempt to set a DRUPAL cookie and not maintain a session unless we are able to set it. This way we know that we will not have a PHPSESSID in the URL. If we are not able to set the cookie, then we allow only anonymous access that is sessionless.. I am not sure if that will work or not: what other options do we have here? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sun, 07 Aug 2005 22:02:19 +0000 : djnz I am convinced that ini_set('url_rewriter.tags','') is the answer. I find it hard to believe that any host would go to the trouble to disable this (not just a matter of setting compile time paramaters, you would have to hack the PHP source; and why would they?) - certainly no cPanel host I have used does. The reason the code currently in settings.php doesn't work is not because hosts disable it, it is because PHP does not support it. RTFM.