On Jul 26, 2006, at 1:18 PM, Bèr Kessels wrote:
Op woensdag 26 juli 2006 18:01, schreef Kieran Lal:
before we dive into small UI improvements.
From what I have seen in the past, and now again this is very unfair to say.
You are right. I shouldn't have said before. I meant we should do this in parallel. Things improve because of many diverse approaches and efforts. I agree Kristjan's recommendations, but want to see also see the effort I outlined as well. Cheers, Kieran
Kristjan has hardly ever proposed "small UI improvements". And no, he has not got the resources like CS to put people on it to turn this into patches.
Personally I value Kristjan's input a lot higher then some statistically-backed up survey, because Kristjan spends a lot of effort and time to back his statments up with research, literature, screenshots and mockups. We thank a lot of great usability improvement on his input. On the same note, a lot of his input has died a silent death, because no 'coder' (I prefer not to devide Drupalleers into coders and none-coders) took up his ideas and made them work.
So, to conclude: CS's statistics show where we can improve the overall experience (Drupal.org[1]). And Kristjan has made a great post, with mockups and explanations how we can improve Your Drupal Site. Both are very important parts, both need attention. Because eventrhough a lot of effort went into improving Drupals admin, it did not become notably 'better' overall [2]. Some parts improved, others de-proved.
Bèr
[1] Besides the "where can I find what" and "how do I use what" improvements, we *also* need some better quality assurance. Drupal without contribs is not much. But most contribs are "not much" either. Drupal relies on somtimes absolutely crappy contribs, or stuff that is not even stable (I am pointing at myself too!). [2] http://webschuur.com/node/638 check the very well structured menu... ?
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