Let me sum up this topic, in form of a conversation: -- We do not need drupal.css, let's move most of it to core themes. -- But then other themes need to theme admin which is pretty hard. -- Then let's make a separate admin theme. -- We do not really know what's admin and what's not. -- (Voice of Neil Drumm) What's under admin/ is admin. That's my memory of this chat from all last year. We stopped here. Let's try to continue from here and not re-debate the former parts. I know we love debate. But there is a Drupal 4.7 which needs love. No, you do not need to code. It's enough if you review a patch a day. Not more! If every subscriber of this list would just do a good review http://drupal.org/patch/review of just one patch each day then we would have Drupal 4.7 by now. Regards NK