Adrian et al, here is what I'd like to see happen: get PHPTemplate in core. We'd need to: 1. remove Xtemplate from core. 2. remove the Bluemarine theme from core (Xtemplate based). 3. remove the Pushbutton theme from core (Xtemplate based). 4. add PHPTemplate to core. 5. add a PHPTemplate-based theme to core. Steps 1, 2 and 3 are easy. Steps 4 and 5 need to be discussed. - What needs to be done to get PHPTemplate in core? From what I can tell, PHPTemplate's engine-specific settings (eg. the primary and secondary links) need some work. - What PHPTemplate-based theme should we ship with core? Should we port either Bluemarine or Pushbutton to PHPTemplate or should we go with fresh themes? My requirements for such theme would be: 1. The theme must validate as XHTML. 2. The theme's CSS classes/IDs must comply Drupal's naming conventions. 3. The theme should work on all browsers without hacks. 4. The theme should be simple and easy to customize. No themes with a bazillion of small images that no one will ever change. -- Dries Buytaert :: http://www.buytaert.net/