+1. We're not in the business of dictating which browsers people must use to access content. The browser market is going to continue to be volatile for some time and the best we can do is design for the standards that exist and support whatever is in the best interest of our audiences, which of course vary per site. IE7 will certainly have an impact on web development -- though I'm not sure it will be for the best. In any case, let's not daddle over which browsers to support in core; we need something that works out of the box; we can define what that means later. The truth of the matter is Drupal is severely showing its age post-install and this needs to change if we're going to continue to grow Drupal's following. Appearance, flexibility and experience are ways to approach this issue.Getting PHPTemplate (or whatever we call it...) into core will be a step in the right direction. Getting a theme *like* FriendsElectric into core as the new default theme is another good step. Next steps: let's talk about what needs to be done for each of these steps to happen and who can do what to get it done. I'm working on themes and UI issues... specifically, SpreadFirefox, Democratica and Lincoln's Revenge are all being rewritten, hopefully to deal with the issues that Steven raised. Additionally, I'm going to try to standardize classes and IDs as much as possible -- per Dries' request. I could certainly use some help with that -- and I think we'd be better off discussing those issues now that it seems that we have some consensus that these things need to happen! Chris On 5/2/05, Morbus Iff <morbus@disobey.com> wrote:
d) Let Drupal be the leader -- let's include a nice, non-IE compliant theme. There are community sites already which only display a splash screen with a message and a link to firefox if you visit them with IE.
Drupal is a content management system, not a design engine or a client controller. Let's focus on the content, eh? First rule of content? Make it usable by everyone.
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