Issue status update for http://drupal.org/node/30509 Post a follow up: http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/30509 Project: Drupal Version: cvs Component: path.module Category: feature requests Priority: normal Assigned to: moshe weitzman Reported by: moshe weitzman Updated by: Crell Status: patch (code needs review) hm, I like that. It becomes a "fill in the blank" form. We'd have to size the text field properly, but that should clear up any confusion, especially if the base url also has a / after it so make it clearer that one shouldn't include that. Crell Previous comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, 06 Sep 2005 14:17:34 +0000 : moshe weitzman Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/custom_url.patch (1.71 KB) i have had several people frown and ask what the heck we mean in the posting UI by 'path alias'. Once I explain, they adore the feature and suggest the alternative wording 'custom url'. So here is a patch which changes the user facing name of this feature. Admin area is unchanged and probably shouldn't be since the concept of an alias is more important there. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, 06 Sep 2005 18:46:35 +0000 : Morbus Iff -1 from me. The purist in me would see "custom URL" and would enter the full URL: http://something.com/blah/, not the actual, um, "path alias" that the thing is looking for. URL actually *means* something, and that's "http://something/blah/" not "blah". ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, 06 Sep 2005 18:53:50 +0000 : m3avrck -1 from me as well, "Custom URL" just doesn't make as much sense. Then again, I do see the issues with the word "Path" but "alias" should make sense to most people. So what about "URL alias" ? That would combine the best of both worlds, IMO :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, 06 Sep 2005 18:54:37 +0000 : Crell I have to agree with Morbus and -1 this one for the same reason. I'd say that if anything, the help text below the path alias text box should be improved. The lone example of "about" doesn't help much. A better example would be: For example, enter "mypages/about" if you want a page to appear at http://yoursite.com/mypages/about. Something like that would make it much clearer what part of the URL one is entering. It could even be customized to use $base_url there, so that it's site specific. :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, 06 Sep 2005 19:01:54 +0000 : Morbus Iff I think I'd be fine with "URL path", in as much as a path is not a URL (or a shaving is not a pencil, for equivalence). "URL alias" I'd still be concerned about - there's nothing in those two words that would dissuade me from using an entire URL (unlike "URL path"). "Alternative URL path"? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, 06 Sep 2005 19:12:37 +0000 : m3avrck Well building upon that don't we get run full circle to "URL Path Alias" ? Maybe that makes the *most* sense :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, 06 Sep 2005 19:41:41 +0000 : nedjo custom link? custom address? I agree the current label is confusing. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, 06 Sep 2005 19:51:39 +0000 : moshe weitzman come on. our goal here is not to prevent a hard core developer from typing in 'http'. we are trying to make software that normal people can use without stressing their brains. neither 'path' nor 'alias' contribute toward this goal. 'custom' is good because joe user gets it through his head that he can control the urls. this is a mind blowing moment for many new users. they never had it so good! 'url' isn't that great, and morbus might get confused by it (cough cough). so i like 'custom address' a lot. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, 06 Sep 2005 19:55:44 +0000 : Morbus Iff "Custom address" doesn't work for me - I think of address as a complete street address, or a complete web site address, not just "Concord, NH" or "blah". As for user vs. hardcore, I've no problem with that, but I will not stand for using terms improperly - that's just making users dumber, and our lives more difficult in the future. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, 06 Sep 2005 20:05:30 +0000 : Morbus Iff With that said, I'd be fine with "custom address", assuming the help text gets improved per #3. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, 06 Sep 2005 20:25:51 +0000 : Bèr Kessels In general changing words will not help a lot. Especially if you change something into an easier, yet incorrect (or not fully covering) term. taxonomy is just that: taxonomy. taxonomyes are not categories! A path alias is just that: an alias for a path. It is not a custom URL. So I agre with morbus: we should not use incorrect terminology. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, 06 Sep 2005 20:37:42 +0000 : breyten How about adding $base_url in front of the textfield (but not editable) ? I think we can then leave the description as custom url.