On 7/31/07, Gerhard Killesreiter <gerhard@killesreiter.de> wrote:
Khalid Baheyeldin schrieb:
As I understood it was:
#drupal - development focused #drupal-support - support focused - for newbies
The problem is that #drupal is the first place newbies will think of to get support. Once they are there, they are greeted with the "support?" reply telling them to go to #drupal-support.
No, they actually get a message when they join and there is a topic to look at.
These are client dependent, and you should not assume that all people see them. On kopete (the default KDE IM client), the channel message just scrolls up as you get a bazillion messages saying userblah is now Away. The title is also next to useless, since it only appears if I mouse over the window title, and then it appears truncated on a single line. Telling users to go get another client is not an option.
This can be offputting and make people feel unwelcome. They
ask the first question and get a reply that amounts to : "we don't serve your type here, buzz off!" (plagiarised from Esmerel)
"You didn't read the topic or pay attention to the join message, buzz off" is more accurate.
And how does that reflect on the project as a whole? Not positively for sure.
So, I don't see why charters can change, with development
in #drupal-dev (and only development), then #drupal become community focused, has support, infra discussions, and everything else that is not development.
I am not going to agree to this.
We seldom agree, so that is OK.
Let me re-phrase that: I am not going to give up #drupal to the people who can't properly use IRC anyway.
Read about the September that never ended. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September The same goes for Spam. It changed email forever. The world changes. Our little niche gets discovered and the influx begins. Drupal is growing, more people will come in. We have to deal with it! If the unwashed ones are 1%, it was not a problem when the community were only 100 people. Now with tens of thousands, they will become so. Cheers,
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