Killes, don't you see that it's this horrible condescending attitude that is the whole problem? Do you not *want* newbies? Are you allergic? New folks are often in a rush to get their first project out the door. It's understandable. That's why they picked a CMS and didn't sit down to write an application. So they're in a hurry, glance at IRC channels, and find one that looks like it will help. *This will continue to happen no matter what the channel charters are* So, my vote is, let's work with it instead of fighting it all the time. Mr. Killesreiter we're having fun while the tumbleweeds blow in #drupal. Join us! It's your destiny ;-) --fletch On 7/31/07, Gerhard Killesreiter <gerhard@killesreiter.de> wrote:
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Khalid Baheyeldin schrieb:
As I understood it was:
#drupal - development focused #drupal-support - support focused - for newbies
The problem is that #drupal is the first place newbies will think of to get support. Once they are there, they are greeted with the "support?" reply telling them to go to #drupal-support.
No, they actually get a message when they join and there is a topic to look at.
This can be offputting and make people feel unwelcome. They ask the first question and get a reply that amounts to : "we don't serve your type here, buzz off!" (plagiarised from Esmerel)
"You didn't read the topic or pay attention to the join message, buzz off" is more accurate.
So, I don't see why charters can change, with development in #drupal-dev (and only development), then #drupal become community focused, has support, infra discussions, and everything else that is not development.
I am not going to agree to this.
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