Yay Drumm! On 7/2/07 11:55 PM, Neil Drumm wrote:
I believe reducing our queues is not something software will solve. It is a human "problem" that needs a human solution.
totally.
Automated tests would change the queue size to a smaller constant, if at all. They are are good, but would not alone lead to a very small number of issues.
for sure, but i think a useful addition.
Making reviewing easier will help. I could probably come up with a laundry list of small improvements to project module, but that won't help dww or other project module people. A lot of it is probably in the project.module issue queue.
I actually think some of these are worth pursuing - not because the tech will fix it - but because making it easier / more pleasurable to both be a maintainer and provide reviews is a good thing. And since dww just solicited your list as I'm writing this I'll throw in a couple off the top of my head... things like: * per-component maintainers - as a core module maintainer (i know, i can't believe it either) it'd be nice if issues filed against my stuff automatically got assigned to me. ya ya, rss feeds (don't show updates) and i can bookmark ... it'd make it easier * power to re-assign to someone other than yourself - this one is tricky and i'm *sure* there's probably a patch for it... but in general I think issue ownership is sort of conceptually important. i know i'm missing other obvious ones...
The real winner would be a community change to increase the value of a review. Writing a patch solves your problem. Reviewing help solves someone else's problem. That is why I think there are more patches than reviews.
I think you're absolutely on to something. Totally guilty as charged. But I think there are a couple things at play here - recognizing the value of reviews. what constitutes a good review. And I also think we need to get better as a community at managing and keeping expectations in check. As in - it's not just about core committers should to X, but the rest of the developers need to also do Y. (for some to be determined values of X & Y ;) -- James Walker :: http://walkah.net/ :: xmpp:walkah@walkah.net