On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 12:31 AM, Stefan Nagtegaal <development@standoutdesign.nl> wrote:
Op 21 apr 2009, om 08:20 heeft Steven Peck het volgende geschreven:
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And Stefan, I too miss the old front page where it wasn't all site implementations and Drupalcons but things people found interesting, but that's just what happened.
-sepeck
Happy to hear that Sepeck, sometimes I wonder if it is just me who is experiencing this. Drupal is not for users anymore, drupal is for making money and profit. One example is the "Support the Drupal redesign! Donate Now"-button, which is currently cycling over the frontpage. Why can't we - as a community - build the new drupal.org design? It gives us a good reality check why drupal is (too) hard for true designers.
Now now, the redesign is complex and time consuming. People are busy, so outside perspective is useful.
That said, you could wonder that if some module is moved from core to contrib and dies silently, if it wasn't in core too long already. If nobody feels the urge to keep a certain module up to date, then you could argue about its usefullnes.
I still use them. I know a number of people I support do as well. If it's been working fine then it hasn't needed much attention, but we are still have a large non-professional, minimal coding group of people that use Drupal so I would rather see a gradual enhancement/generalization of core to absorb these remaining specialized modules.
I would rather see modules like views(1|2|3).module in core, which are very well designed and maintained and deserves to be in core, because of it's quality and filling the gap which there currently is in core. Building views/page-layouts is something drupal needs. Although, I do not think that the current implementation is right, the functionality surely is.
Different discussion. But on par with how CCK migrated into core as it and the community matured around it.
Getting rid of modules like the help.module is not that smart imo. Dries started a monster project to make drupal more accessible and easier to use by attracting Mark Boulton and Leisa, which I think is a good thing. Although, I do not doubt that they could make things easier to use, but I'm pretty convinced they could not make things as easy that the help texts are becoming redundant.
I liked the old built in help system, but we've gone 3 different ways since then.
Kind regards,
Stefan
Steven