With plugin manager in core, it should not be necessary to bundle views with core. It will be a simple matter of selecting the module for installation, after which plugin manager will download the module, install and enable it for you. I think the argument of 'let's put views in core because it'll make setting up sites easier' is kind of a bad one in this case. Views is neither easy nor essential for -every- site out there. ----- Cameron Eagans Owner, Black Storms Studios, LLC http://www.blackstormsstudios.com On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:15 PM, T L <tloud365@gmail.com> wrote:
+1 for views in core d8.
It's a pretty useful module, and I'm guessing most of us use it in the vast majority of our sites. wrt code flexibility, I think it's a fair trade off for lowering another barrier to entry for new users. It's one less blog/forum/module search a new user has to read/do in order to get/understand/use what again I'd guess most drupal sites consider standard/necessary.
Just my thoughts though.
Cheers, tim
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Earl Dunovant <prometheus6@gmail.com>wrote:
Views is an query builder, and there's going to be an query builder in D7...couldn't views pretty much work out to a consistent UI for that?
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Naheem Zaffar<naheemzaffar@gmail.com> wrote:
Talking as someone who has not used views extensively, has views really changed that greatly within versions?
Going by the numbers alone, Views 1.x was for Drupal 5, Views 2.x is for Drupal 6. Maybe I am wrong but I would assume that the changes from 2.0 to 2.5 the current release do not impact on the underlying infrastructure all that much?
And this is with a "freak" core lifecycle of two years which I assume will not remain the norm.
2009/8/10 Cameron Eagans
Why would you want views in core?
You put views in core and it is frozen. Nobody can do anything with it
(as
far as changing it: adding new features, reworking existing code, etc). As a contrib module, the Views maintainers can decide how they want to run the release process for Views, and I personally would like to keep it that way -- it allows for a LOT more flexibility and a much faster development lifecycle.
Plus, core is already weighing in at around 9.5 MB. Adding another 4.5 MB of code to maintain doesn't seem like a good idea to me.
-- Tim Loudon t: 781.686.6096