Issue status update for http://drupal.org/node/20760 Project: Drupal Version: cvs Component: base system Category: tasks Priority: normal Assigned to: stefan nagtegaal Reported by: stefan nagtegaal Updated by: adrinux Status: patch -1 on removing the help texts. I personally have found them useful on several occassions, the short text is useful for telling you what to do on a given page, but it's the long help text that can be helpful to understand how - for instance - the permissions or taxonomy systems work. As a compromise they could perhpas be moved to drupal.org and linked from within Drupal, but it's a lot harder for people to provide 'patches' for content on drupal.org, and makes translation a real problem. Removing them because they're out of date doesn't really address the issue. adrinux Previous comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ April 18, 2005 - 14:16 : stefan nagtegaal Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/helptext-removal.diff (89.03 KB) I know of you guys are falling from their chair when seeing this patch, but... The attached patch removes all long helptexts which are used by the help.module to display them. I - and i know there are more people who thinks about that the same way - believe that, with a good CMS these kind of very long helptexts are not needed. I would prefer to improve the short helptexts on top of every page, instead of these longer versions. The documentation team already started to improve these short texts, to reflect what people could do on a certain page.. Another reason to delete these helptexts was that there were almost none of the translators who translated them. I'm not sure if that is because the text is too large, or the info is outdated.. But, i think it would be better to remove these... See also the related thread here: http://lists.drupal.org/archives/drupal-docs/2005-04/msg00008.html By applying this patch, the help.module will be deprecated... :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ April 18, 2005 - 15:01 : Uwe Hermann Hm, I'm not sure whether the help texts should be removed altogether, but making them shorter and more concise is definately a good thing.