Bèr Kessels wrote:

Op zondag 26 november 2006 16:17, schreef Karoly Negyesi:

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There is no coding or reviewing required. I am just asking for opinions on http://drupal.org/node/99656

I'd like to say something about the way this issue is handled.

I am fiddling with a 5.0. Fiddling beyond installing and adding some "lorem ipsums". I converted some old sites to 5, and tested my new admin theme on the new platform. I found a "thing" that behaved really weird. I managed to get empty (!=blank) pages without doing anything really weird. My brain then adds 1 and 2 and calls this "a critical bug".

Whether or not it was meant to be that way is not really an issue there. The fact that very busy developers tell me to "shut te F up" in words like "I am sick of this. I will begin committing my code to the 6.x branch. Out." astonishes me. And it worries me, not because of myself, I have a thick skin and I can defend mysels :). but by the fact that by reporting an issue as critical, I undeliberately managed to annoy the S out of some developer(s). I don't want to annoy the S out of developers, I'd like to help-them-help-Drupal(-help-me).

For me the (probably invalid) feeling was: I found a way to break Drupal, lets fix it, lets spend some time on making this at the least weird behaviour.

Thsi is a meta post. But I get the feeling we certainly need to patch the behaviour of ourselves at times, else we continue with this --at times-- rather grim atmosphere. I was rather shocked by the anwsers in that issue.

I am sincerely sorry if I stepped on toes of developers by calling this a critical issue. I am sorry if I got it all wrong by breaking something and reporting that, only to find that it was not broken at all (classical case of "its not a bug its a feature). But I would like to know how we can avoid all this frustration and these harsh words in the future.

So hereby my aplogies, eventhough I don't really know what went wrong :)

I think chx has been frustrated with bugfixing lately, and he is impatient for a release so he can move on to 6. I understand your frustration there, and I also sympathize with chx. I don't have a really good response other than to say that I don't think chx' frustration was really even about that issue, but I'd say he's overworked himself a little bit and hasn't gotten to work on anything fun for a little bit because he really wants to get this release out. This is an interesting effect of our model: We work on what interests us. But what happens when there are uninteresting things that must be done before progress can be made. We get frustrated people. =)