Student developer looking for some drupal mentoring
Is there a developer's IRC channel I could ask a few questions on? I have started work on two module of my own, and i need a little guidance on how to start a project on the drupal site and some help answering a few miscellaneous questions. I am a student, who managed to get an internship developing drupal modules for the summer. I've talked it over with my boss and we are going to contribute all the work I do back to the community. I was going to apply for google SOC, but I knew I would have my hands full with this internship. Never the less, I could still use some guidiance from a sessioned php/drupal developer. Here is the website I am currently working on. http://www.openmfg.org. Most notably I managed to do a little black magic and achieve partial integration with mantis bug tacking system. I have also made a few modifations to the listserve module to work with postgreSQL. I managed to set up another example of ezmlm, qmail, mailhandler, listhandler forum to listserve set up. I read someone where that there was a desire for a howto to be written on this. It that still the case? Please take a look around and if anyone is willing to act as a mentor or wants to lend a hand you can contact me off list. Thanks Trevor Mckeown
Trevor Mckeown wrote:
Is there a developer's IRC channel I could ask a few questions on? I
#drupal on irc.freenode.net
have started work on two module of my own, and i need a little guidance on how to start a project on the drupal site and some help answering a few miscellaneous questions.
Sure, check out api.drupal.org first.
I am a student, who managed to get an internship developing drupal modules for the summer. I've talked it over with my boss and we are going to contribute all the work I do back to the community. I was
get a CVS account: drupal.org/cvs-account
going to apply for google SOC, but I knew I would have my hands full with this internship. Never the less, I could still use some guidiance from a sessioned php/drupal developer.
Here is the website I am currently working on. http://www.openmfg.org. Most notably I managed to do a little black magic and achieve partial integration with mantis bug tacking system. I have also made a few modifations to the listserve module to work with postgreSQL. I managed to set up another example of ezmlm, qmail, mailhandler, listhandler forum to listserve set up. I read someone where that there was a desire for a howto to be written on this. It that still the case?
Sure, it is.
Please take a look around and if anyone is willing to act as a mentor or wants to lend a hand you can contact me off list.
People on #drupal are usually helpful if there is a concrete, development related question. "Development" means core or contrib development, not "how do I set up my site to do this or that?". This last comment wasn't for you, though. We also have #drupal-support for the latter type of questions. Cheers, Gerhard
On Jun 1, 2006, at 10:50 AM, Gerhard Killesreiter wrote:
Sure, check out api.drupal.org first.
Wait... there's api.drupal.org and drupaldocs.org... they look very similar, but seem to have somewhat different info. What's the relation between the two? Is HEAD in drupaldocs.org still being updated? Is it the same as in api.drupal.org? Thanks, -Nate
Wait... there's api.drupal.org and drupaldocs.org... they look very similar, but seem to have somewhat different info. What's the relation between the two?
<Morbus> drupaldocs? <Druplicon> api.drupal.org (drupaldocs is now deprecated). -- Morbus Iff ( united we're bland ) Technical: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/779 Culture: http://www.disobey.com/ and http://www.gamegrene.com/ icq: 2927491 / aim: akaMorbus / yahoo: morbus_iff / jabber.org: morbus
On Jun 1, 2006, at 11:10 AM, Morbus Iff wrote:
Wait... there's api.drupal.org and drupaldocs.org... they look very similar, but seem to have somewhat different info. What's the relation between the two?
<Morbus> drupaldocs? <Druplicon> api.drupal.org (drupaldocs is now deprecated).
There's no hint on drupaldocs.org of the person to contact to suggest changes, but I'd suggest putting a note on the homepage warning that it's deprecated and to look at api.drupal.org. Or at least taking down the notice that "the documentation is once again up to date." ;-) Cheers, -n
On 6/1/06, Gerhard Killesreiter <gerhard@killesreiter.de> wrote:
Is there a developer's IRC channel I could ask a few questions on? I
#drupal on irc.freenode.net
Thanks, I will start trolling the IRC channels now
have started work on two module of my own, and i need a little guidance on how to start a project on the drupal site and some help answering a few miscellaneous questions.
Sure, check out api.drupal.org first.
This site has been my life line. A lot of the examples are very good, especially the howto on creating modules and new node types.
I am a student, who managed to get an internship developing drupal modules for the summer. I've talked it over with my boss and we are going to contribute all the work I do back to the community. I was
get a CVS account: drupal.org/cvs-account
I've got a CVS account ... do I just need to log in and create a new directory to start a project? I have two modules I am currently working on. One download that simulates a permission based tree stucture for downloading (we hope to add CVS and directory syncing capabilities to this one) and the Mantis module for the integration. Both of these modules are in the very early stages, but they offer some functionality that could be improve apon.
Please take a look around and if anyone is willing to act as a mentor or wants to lend a hand you can contact me off list.
People on #drupal are usually helpful if there is a concrete, development related question. "Development" means core or contrib development, not "how do I set up my site to do this or that?". This last comment wasn't for you, though. We also have #drupal-support for the latter type of questions.
How about questions like what is the best way to accomplish functionality with X api or questions about node operations.? Support or dev? Thanks --Trevor
Trevor Mckeown wrote:
On 6/1/06, Gerhard Killesreiter <gerhard@killesreiter.de> wrote:
I am a student, who managed to get an internship developing drupal modules for the summer. I've talked it over with my boss and we are going to contribute all the work I do back to the community. I was
get a CVS account: drupal.org/cvs-account
I've got a CVS account ... do I just need to log in and create a new directory to start a project?
Yes.
I have two modules I am currently working on. One download that simulates a permission based tree stucture for downloading (we hope to add CVS and directory syncing capabilities to this one) and the Mantis module for the integration. Both of these modules are in the very early stages, but they offer some functionality that could be improve apon.
As long as you intend to improve them you can also check in early versions.
Please take a look around and if anyone is willing to act as a mentor or wants to lend a hand you can contact me off list.
People on #drupal are usually helpful if there is a concrete, development related question. "Development" means core or contrib development, not "how do I set up my site to do this or that?". This last comment wasn't for you, though. We also have #drupal-support for the latter type of questions.
How about questions like what is the best way to accomplish functionality with X api or questions about node operations.? Support or dev?
dev I'd say. Cheers, Gerhard
On Jun 1, 2006, at 10:07 AM, Trevor Mckeown wrote:
I've got a CVS account ... do I just need to log in and create a new directory to start a project?
you'll also want to read: http://drupal.org/node/7765 welcome! -derek (dww)
On Jun 1, 2006, at 8:21 AM, Trevor Mckeown wrote:
I have also made a few modifations to the listserve module to work with postgreSQL. I managed to set up another example of ezmlm, qmail, mailhandler, listhandler forum to listserve set up.
In our administration survey of 900 Drupal administrators one of the most important tasks for Drupal administrators was integration of Drupal and mail. There is a wide array of different solutions each meeting the various subtle but important details related to mail integration. I would suggest that you attempt to get some mail changes into Drupal core. A good place to start would be getting mail.inc, http:// cvs.drupal.org/viewcvs/drupal/contributions/modules/mimemail/ into Drupal core. I have discussed this with Neil, the current core maintainer and he is interested in seeing all Drupal mail functions use a standard mail API. If you would like to help write a chart showing all the various mail integration options I'd be happy to work with you to show them all. Mass Mailers: Mass mailer and PHPList, Simple News, and eNewsletter Mailing list integration: Mailing List manager, OG_Simpa, OG2List(an Drupal based mailing list manager) Mail helper modules: Listserve, mail handler, notify, Mime Mail Modules that use mail: contact, invite, cart, and dozens of others.
I read someone where that there was a desire for a howto to be written on this. It that still the case?
http://drupal.org/handbook/modules/listhandler HOWTO: Integrate mailing lists with forums using listhandler and mailhandler: http://drupal.org/node/40777 Yes, these modules need updating for Drupal 4.7 as do the docs. If you have time to contribute, CivicSpace can provide mentorship. Kieran
I have also made a few modifations to the listserve module to work with postgreSQL. I managed to set up another example of ezmlm, qmail, mailhandler, listhandler forum to listserve set up.
In our administration survey of 900 Drupal administrators one of the most important tasks for Drupal administrators was integration of Drupal and mail.
There is a wide array of different solutions each meeting the various subtle but important details related to mail integration. I would suggest that you attempt to get some mail changes into Drupal core. A good place to start would be getting mail.inc, http://cvs.drupal.org/viewcvs/drupal/contributions/modules/mimemail/ into Drupal core. I have discussed this with Neil, the current core maintainer and he is interested in seeing all Drupal mail functions use a standard mail API.
I too am interested in participating on a standard mail api. Depending on how these other modules go, I might be able to jump on this latter this summer.
If you would like to help write a chart showing all the various mail integration options I'd be happy to work with you to show them all.
Yes I would like to talk about this a little more in depth. This is probably something I would have to do in my free time however. I am not much of a writter (as you can probably see from my mangled emails ;-) ), but I can do some technical drawing.
Mass Mailers: Mass mailer and PHPList, Simple News, and eNewsletter Mailing list integration: Mailing List manager, OG_Simpa, OG2List(an Drupal based mailing list manager) Mail helper modules: Listserve, mail handler, notify, Mime Mail Modules that use mail: contact, invite, cart, and dozens of others.
I read someone where that there was a desire for a howto to be written on this. It that still the case?
http://drupal.org/handbook/modules/listhandler HOWTO: Integrate mailing lists with forums using listhandler and mailhandler: http://drupal.org/node/40777
I read these when I was setting everything up. Using postgres definitly made this set up a lot more difficult. The sql code in the listhandler module had a slight biasis towords mysql, and I had to do a few modificions. I need to come up with a patch that would work for both databases. As far as i know the database abstraction layer does not provide support for regular expressions and database independance for example db_query("SELECT * from TOOLS where name = REGEX 'regex'"); will only work on mysql and db_query("SELECT * from TOOLS where name ~ 'regex'"); will only work on postgresql Has anyone else had success with listhandler and mailhandler using postgres? Maybe we can pool some code together
Yes, these modules need updating for Drupal 4.7 as do the docs. If you have time to contribute, CivicSpace can provide mentorship.
I am currently working with Drupal 4.6, (4.7 was still in beta when I started this project), so any updates I would do to this code would be in my free time, or I might be able to sqeeze this in when I work on my patches. Who are the current mantainers for mailhandler and listhandler? Thanks for the warm welcome everyone, I am defintley getting excite about all the possibilities. --Trevor
On 01 Jun 2006, at 19:28, Trevor Mckeown wrote:
There is a wide array of different solutions each meeting the various subtle but important details related to mail integration. I would suggest that you attempt to get some mail changes into Drupal core. A good place to start would be getting mail.inc, http://cvs.drupal.org/viewcvs/drupal/contributions/modules/mimemail/ into Drupal core. I have discussed this with Neil, the current core maintainer and he is interested in seeing all Drupal mail functions use a standard mail API.
I too am interested in participating on a standard mail api. Depending on how these other modules go, I might be able to jump on this latter this summer.
The goal is that they'll be a required building block for any module that needs to send e-mails. :-) At this point, we're reviewing the implementation, the APIs, the hooks, and the configurability. To help, you'll need to dive into the code, and review the proposed patches. We need you guys' help. The sooner the better, because we have less than 3 months until the next code freeze. Proposing or changing patches the size of this just before the code freeze doesn't increase the likelihood of them being accepted in time. It are busy times around code freeze dates, so in practice, the big patches have less time left. -- Dries Buytaert :: http://www.buytaert.net/
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