Hi all, I’m working with Drupal for several months, and today I’v noticed that in the “Tmp” directory (which holds the files till the uploading process complete), There are several “old” files. As I understand this phenomenon, these files are files that their upload-process wasn’t completed successfully , And from some reason they were forgotten in the temporary library… even cron run didn’t delete them. Is there any built-in way to get rid of that unnecessary files? Many thanks! Miriam
Quoting Miriam Natanzon <miriam@mail.snunit.k12.il>:
Hi all,
I’m working with Drupal for several months, and today I’v noticed that in the “Tmp” directory (which holds the files till the uploading process complete), There are several “old” files. As I understand this phenomenon, these files are files that their upload-process wasn’t completed successfully , And from some reason they were forgotten in the temporary library… even cron run didn’t delete them.
Is there any built-in way to get rid of that unnecessary files?
This isn't a development request see: http://drupal.org/support. Use a cron script to remove the files in /tmp. Typically this is accomplished using the find command. Earnie -- http://for-my-kids.com/ -- http://give-me-an-offer.com/
It is a development request to the extent that this may be a "bug by design"; what is supposed to happen to the tmp files? Are people who may not be system admin gurus supposed to know that these files accumulate, and what to do with them? Victor Kane http://awebfactory.com.ar On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:10 AM, Earnie Boyd <earnie@users.sourceforge.net> wrote:
Quoting Miriam Natanzon <miriam@mail.snunit.k12.il>:
Hi all,
I'm working with Drupal for several months, and today I'v noticed that in the "Tmp" directory (which holds the files till the uploading process complete), There are several "old" files. As I understand this phenomenon, these files are files that their upload-process wasn't completed successfully , And from some reason they were forgotten in the temporary library… even cron run didn't delete them.
Is there any built-in way to get rid of that unnecessary files?
This isn't a development request see: http://drupal.org/support.
Use a cron script to remove the files in /tmp. Typically this is accomplished using the find command.
Earnie -- http://for-my-kids.com/ -- http://give-me-an-offer.com/
Quoting Victor Kane <victorkane@gmail.com>:
It is a development request to the extent that this may be a "bug by design"; what is supposed to happen to the tmp files? Are people who may not be system admin gurus supposed to know that these files accumulate, and what to do with them?
But the OP didn't raise a development topic; it was a topic of support. There is a different list for that. Earnie -- http://for-my-kids.com/ -- http://give-me-an-offer.com/
It is a development request to the extent that this may be a "bug by design"; what is supposed to happen to the tmp files? Are people who may not be system admin gurus supposed to know that these files accumulate, and what to do with them?
But the OP didn't raise a development topic; it was a topic of support. There is a different list for that.
I'm on the fence. Largely: * if Drupal is leaving tmp files around, something has gone wrong at a high enough level that we probably /can't/ "fix it" by removing the temp files. * most servers have a tmpwatch utility of some kind that automatically purges left over files. This, of course, presumes that Drupal's temp directory remains at the default /tmp. If it's moved elsewhere, then Drupal becomes responsible for cleaning up the files (and we'd probably want to implement some sort of post-cleanup in a cron). -- Morbus Iff ( and think about the bad things that I didn't do ) Technical: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/779 Enjoy: http://www.disobey.com/ and http://www.videounderbelly.com/ aim: akaMorbus / skype: morbusiff / icq: 2927491 / jabber.org: morbus
I'm guessing this issue is re: Drupal 5, but in Drupal 6 there is an over-zealous temp file cleanup, it only allows them to stick around for 24 minutes. http://drupal.org/node/276018 --mark On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Morbus Iff <morbus@disobey.com> wrote:
It is a development request to the extent that this may be a "bug by design"; what is supposed to happen to the tmp files? Are people who may not be system admin gurus supposed to know that these files accumulate, and what to do with them?
But the OP didn't raise a development topic; it was a topic of support. There is a different list for that.
I'm on the fence. Largely:
* if Drupal is leaving tmp files around, something has gone wrong at a high enough level that we probably /can't/ "fix it" by removing the temp files.
* most servers have a tmpwatch utility of some kind that automatically purges left over files. This, of course, presumes that Drupal's temp directory remains at the default /tmp. If it's moved elsewhere, then Drupal becomes responsible for cleaning up the files (and we'd probably want to implement some sort of post-cleanup in a cron).
-- Morbus Iff ( and think about the bad things that I didn't do ) Technical: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/779 Enjoy: http://www.disobey.com/ and http://www.videounderbelly.com/ aim: akaMorbus / skype: morbusiff / icq: 2927491 / jabber.org: morbus
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 6:44 PM, mark burdett <mfburdett@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm guessing this issue is re: Drupal 5, but in Drupal 6 there is an over-zealous temp file cleanup, it only allows them to stick around for 24 minutes. http://drupal.org/node/276018
That's only the cleanup of the {files} table. Temporary files coming from uploads are managed by PHP, and should be automatically removed right at the end of the request (if they have not been moved before that), as described in http://php.net/features.file-upload Other temporary files generated by Drupal modules have to be managed by Drupal. I guess some modules fail to cleanup correctly. Damien
Thanks for your all responses! I'm using Drupal 5.7, and understood Drupal core and also Drupal cron didn't take care of that issue of deleting old unused files from Tmp... I think it's the right place because I didn't expect Drupal to fix it in this version and wonder if someone develop a script fix it. I saw there files with "tmp_" prefix (machine names) and also files with human-names. ( Someone guessed there is an module that upload files and didn't care of deleting the temporary files, It's can be the audio module in my site.. ) Miriam. -----Original Message----- From: development-bounces@drupal.org [mailto:development-bounces@drupal.org]On Behalf Of mark burdett Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 7:44 PM To: development@drupal.org Subject: Re: [development] Tmp directory I'm guessing this issue is re: Drupal 5, but in Drupal 6 there is an over-zealous temp file cleanup, it only allows them to stick around for 24 minutes. http://drupal.org/node/276018 --mark On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Morbus Iff <morbus@disobey.com> wrote:
It is a development request to the extent that this may be a "bug by design"; what is supposed to happen to the tmp files? Are people who may not be system admin gurus supposed to know that these files accumulate, and what to do with them?
But the OP didn't raise a development topic; it was a topic of support. There is a different list for that.
I'm on the fence. Largely:
* if Drupal is leaving tmp files around, something has gone wrong at a high enough level that we probably /can't/ "fix it" by removing the temp files.
* most servers have a tmpwatch utility of some kind that automatically purges left over files. This, of course, presumes that Drupal's temp directory remains at the default /tmp. If it's moved elsewhere, then Drupal becomes responsible for cleaning up the files (and we'd probably want to implement some sort of post-cleanup in a cron).
-- Morbus Iff ( and think about the bad things that I didn't do ) Technical: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/779 Enjoy: http://www.disobey.com/ and http://www.videounderbelly.com/ aim: akaMorbus / skype: morbusiff / icq: 2927491 / jabber.org: morbus
Just a note for developers who write modules that create temporary files... I've found that a register_shutdown_function('file_delete', realpath($path_to_file)) is pretty dependable for cleaning up... note the use of realpath, it's necessary for shutdown functions and file_delete has the file_exists check in it to prevent errors in the shutdown phase.. .darrel. On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 5:43 AM, Miriam Natanzon <miriam@mail.snunit.k12.il> wrote:
Thanks for your all responses!
I'm using Drupal 5.7, and understood Drupal core and also Drupal cron didn't take care of that issue of deleting old unused files from Tmp... I think it's the right place because I didn't expect Drupal to fix it in this version and wonder if someone develop a script fix it. I saw there files with "tmp_" prefix (machine names) and also files with human-names. ( Someone guessed there is an module that upload files and didn't care of deleting the temporary files, It's can be the audio module in my site.. )
Miriam.
-----Original Message----- From: development-bounces@drupal.org [mailto:development-bounces@drupal.org]On Behalf Of mark burdett Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 7:44 PM To: development@drupal.org Subject: Re: [development] Tmp directory
I'm guessing this issue is re: Drupal 5, but in Drupal 6 there is an over-zealous temp file cleanup, it only allows them to stick around for 24 minutes. http://drupal.org/node/276018
--mark
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Morbus Iff <morbus@disobey.com> wrote:
It is a development request to the extent that this may be a "bug by design"; what is supposed to happen to the tmp files? Are people who may not be system admin gurus supposed to know that these files accumulate, and what to do with them?
But the OP didn't raise a development topic; it was a topic of support. There is a different list for that.
I'm on the fence. Largely:
* if Drupal is leaving tmp files around, something has gone wrong at a high enough level that we probably /can't/ "fix it" by removing the temp files.
* most servers have a tmpwatch utility of some kind that automatically purges left over files. This, of course, presumes that Drupal's temp directory remains at the default /tmp. If it's moved elsewhere, then Drupal becomes responsible for cleaning up the files (and we'd probably want to implement some sort of post-cleanup in a cron).
-- Morbus Iff ( and think about the bad things that I didn't do ) Technical: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/779 Enjoy: http://www.disobey.com/ and http://www.videounderbelly.com/ aim: akaMorbus / skype: morbusiff / icq: 2927491 / jabber.org: morbus
Which version of Drupal are you using? Are there human readable prefixes to the tmp files, or are they just random strings? On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Miriam Natanzon <miriam@mail.snunit.k12.il> wrote:
Hi all,
I'm working with Drupal for several months, and today I'v noticed that in the "Tmp" directory (which holds the files till the uploading process complete),
There are several "old" files.
As I understand this phenomenon, these files are files that their upload-process wasn't completed successfully ,
And from some reason they were forgotten in the temporary library… even cron run didn't delete them.
Is there any built-in way to get rid of that unnecessary files?
Many thanks!
Miriam
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