Already got my ticket and can't wait to meet everyone in person! I would like to know, for the presentation I am planning on an agile approach to Drupal web application development (which will include concrete examples in addition to the actual Drupal based application itself), what kind of materials should one prepare? From what I have seen of the videos, I should prepare a slide show presentation, is that right? Do we just come in and plug in our laptops to a projector? Thanks, Victor Kane http://awebfactory.com.ar On 8/3/07, Karoly Negyesi <karoly@negyesi.net> wrote:

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We have room for a big venue for 4 days with at least 3 parallel tracks. If we aim for 6 1-hour sessions per room per day, we can host 72 sessions in total. I believe we actually have the room to organize more than 3 parallel tracks.

Can we have a hackers room? :)

*pictures Adrian doing an interpretive dance*.... O_O /me wishes he hadn't.... On 8/3/07, adrian rossouw <adrian@bryght.com> wrote:

On 03 Aug 2007, at 6:46 PM, Victor Kane wrote:

Do we just come in and plug in our laptops to a projector?

We usually do our presentations in interpretive dance, but you don't have to wear lycra if you don't want to.

-- Robin Monks @ www.civicspacelabs.org @ www.gmking.org @ www.multimediachurches.org Fax: (419) 791-8076 "Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might." ~ Ephesians 6:10

For those of us who aren't attending, can we request *no* video of these sessions? Thanks. Please. Victor Kane wrote:

I will be clad in Gaucho-wear

On 8/3/07, *adrian rossouw* <adrian@bryght.com <mailto:adrian@bryght.com>> wrote:

On 03 Aug 2007, at 6:46 PM, Victor Kane wrote:

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Do we just come in and plug in our laptops to a projector?

We usually do our presentations in interpretive dance, but you don't have to wear lycra if you don't want to.

-- Bill Fitzgerald http://www.funnymonkey.com Tools for Teachers 503.897.7160

Hold your horses! This is *exactly* what bloggers want on video! Please upload to Google after the presentation and link me, immediately! Thanks, Amy :) On 8/3/07, Bill Fitzgerald <bill@funnymonkey.com> wrote:

For those of us who aren't attending, can we request *no* video of these sessions?

Thanks. Please.

Victor Kane wrote:

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I will be clad in Gaucho-wear

On 8/3/07, *adrian rossouw* <adrian@bryght.com <mailto:adrian@bryght.com>> wrote:

On 03 Aug 2007, at 6:46 PM, Victor Kane wrote:

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Do we just come in and plug in our laptops to a projector?

We usually do our presentations in interpretive dance, but you don't have to wear lycra if you don't want to.

-- Bill Fitzgerald http://www.funnymonkey.com Tools for Teachers 503.897.7160

-- AmyStephen@gmail.com http://OpenSourceCommunity.org

I would love it if someone would run a session on: "How to write a new Drupal API" With best-practice guidelines for allowing your module to be extended. - Ken Rickard agentrickard On 8/3/07, Victor Kane <victorkane@gmail.com> wrote:

I will be clad in Gaucho-wear

On 8/3/07, adrian rossouw <adrian@bryght.com> wrote:

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On 03 Aug 2007, at 6:46 PM, Victor Kane wrote:

Do we just come in and plug in our laptops to a projector?

We usually do our presentations in interpretive dance, but you don't have to wear lycra if you don't want to.

Not that part. Preferred data (object ? array?) structures. Common functions (CRUD) to include. Traps to ignore. How to protect namespaces. When (or if) to sanitize output data. Invoking the function is about 2% of the API. - Ken On 8/5/07, Karoly Negyesi <karoly@negyesi.net> wrote:

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I would love it if someone would run a session on:

"How to write a new Drupal API"

That will be a mighty short session... module_invoke_all('mymodule_hook', $arg1, $arg2, $arg3) done.

On 05 Aug 2007, at 17:48, Karoly Negyesi wrote:

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I would love it if someone would run a session on:

"How to write a new Drupal API"

That will be a mighty short session... module_invoke_all ('mymodule_hook', $arg1, $arg2, $arg3) done.

Calling a function is not to be confused with API design. Moving a stone does not equal architecting a house either. :) -- Dries Buytaert :: http://www.buytaert.net/

Some more ideas: - Beyond FAPI and the Schema API: next steps (*) - A plan to get some more CCK/Views into core (*) - Top-10 usability improvements for D7 (*) - Drupal and PHP5: how to get most out of it (*) - Making Drupal scale: the Drupal.org use-case - Making Drupal scale: war stories + solutions - We support OpenID: now what? - Drupal and RIAs (idea: can we invite a Flex developer from Adobe developer?) - Running a Drupal Local User Group: lessons learned - Drupal theme development tutorial - Drupal module development tutorial - How to spice up your D6 modules with actions - The Drupal Association: how it works, what we worked one, what we learned, what we plan to do next - Translating Drupal (the new way) - JQuery tutorial - Blogs vs journalism - Drupal consulting/training best practices - Writing secure code - CiviCRM update - Drupal for Good vs Drupal for Evil -- who's winning? - Emerging trends on the web (not Drupal specific) - Community building best practices (not Drupal specific) - PHP 6 - MySQL 6 - Drupal 7 plans for the Drupal database abstraction layer - Drupal and newspapers - Search optimization tricks - Drupal platform vs Drupal product - Drupal and non-profits - Monetizing your Drupal site - $your_cool_module demo - $your_crazy_idea (i.e. inline template editing) - The future of webpublishing - If you chair a workgroup on groups.drupal.org it might be a good to setup a face-to-face meeting - If you maintain an important Drupal (core) module, it might be a good idea to solicit feedback in a brainstorm session - Dating a Drupal developer (presented by the Drupal wifes/ girlfriends that travel along) (*) I'd like to see someone take a lead in this for D7 -- gets extra bonus points to become a Drupal branch maintainer. -- Dries Buytaert :: http://www.buytaert.net/

On Monday 06 August 2007, Dries Buytaert wrote:

Some more ideas:

- Beyond FAPI and the Schema API: next steps (*)

I can see this potentially overlapping the PHP 5 stuff, since that opens up a whole new world of possibilities.

- Drupal and PHP5: how to get most out of it (*)

chx and I have a proposal out for this now. We just need to decide what we're going to cover. :-) Anything people want to hear about in particular? I need some time to sit down and write out some possibilities, too.

- Making Drupal scale: the Drupal.org use-case - Making Drupal scale: war stories + solutions

I'd love to see these.

- Drupal and RIAs (idea: can we invite a Flex developer from Adobe developer?)

What I'd really love to see here is how to leverage the new Ajax-friendly FAPI to build JS/jQuery-based RIAs rather than Flash ones. Related to that, how about Drupal as an application framework rather than CMS? Is anyone but me silly enough to do that? :-)

  - How to spice up your D6 modules with actions

I'd love to see a talk on actions.

- PHP 6

Namespaces just went in. My mouth is watering. :-) Whether or not Unicode will be in a usable state for us is yet to be determined.

- Drupal 7 plans for the Drupal database abstraction layer

I don't know what the status of the code will be in a month and a half, but if people are interested I'd be happy to give a talk on my evil ideas here.

- $your_crazy_idea (i.e. inline template editing)

All of my ideas are crazy. :-)

- Dating a Drupal developer (presented by the Drupal wifes/ girlfriends that travel along)

Would the actual developers be banned from this one? :-)

(*) I'd like to see someone take a lead in this for D7 -- gets extra bonus points to become a Drupal branch maintainer.

-- Dries Buytaert :: http://www.buytaert.net/

Here's a thought. In Sunnyvale, we had one or two double-header talks (one long talk with a coffee break). If we have more room than we do talks right now, could some be double-features? There's definitely some that I could see easily filling out to 2 hours (PHP 5, RIAs/Web Apps, FAPI stuff, Actions (beginner and advanced), etc.). -- Larry Garfield AIM: LOLG42 larry@garfieldtech.com ICQ: 6817012 "If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it." -- Thomas Jefferson

- Beyond FAPI and the Schema API: next steps (*) - A plan to get some more CCK/Views into core (*)

I do not think we (Eaton+me) will have more ideas for FAPI, all the common grunts were solved w/ FAPI3, not until D6 is out, modules are ported and projects are ongoing will the flaws come to light. Let's get back to FAPI at the spring Drupalcon (Toronto?). Next for Schema API is definitely relationships, from there we can have common queries built automatically which will lead to data API instead of CCK...

- Drupal and PHP5: how to get most out of it (*)

I specifically stepped up to this to placate Crell's plans. I am a dinosaur, I still write >>1 instead of /2 and I love Drupal not using the class construct, for me it's weirdo stuff while the procedural ways I understand quite well. I do believe the project will get most from Crell's euthanism and my resistance towards full OOP.

- Making Drupal scale: war stories + solutions

Hmmm I might be able to conjure up a NowPublic story, though I am unsure how long that'll be -- I am not the best of talkers in this regard... Grab slow queries, hire David Strauss to optimize 'em, cache node_load, use memcache, site fast. Any questions :) ?

- We support OpenID: now what?

We need the provider part, of course :)

- If you maintain an important Drupal (core) module, it might be a good idea to solicit feedback in a brainstorm session

If I do not need to give another menu talk, I am fine with sitting and listening what ppl think of the new menu :) Regards, NK

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Related to that, how about Drupal as an application framework rather than CMS? Is anyone but me silly enough to do that? :-)

Oddly enough, I proposed this for O'Reilly OSCON but was turned down, I'll touch on this topic, twice. Once in "Enterprise" Drupal [1] and once in Using Drupal with External Data Sources [2]. I also put in a session for Drupal and the Future of News [3], which addresses Dries' "blogging v. journalism" topic. +1 for "Dating a Drupal developer". FWIW, I am coordinating the partner/wife/husband/friend meetup for those traveling with but not attending the con. [4] - Ken Rickard agentrickard [1] http://barcelona2007.drupalcon.org/node/422 [2] http://barcelona2007.drupalcon.org/node/58 [3] http://barcelona2007.drupalcon.org/node/423 [4] http://barcelona2007.drupalcon.org/node/370

On Aug 6, 2007, at 4:51 AM, Karoly Negyesi wrote:

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- Beyond FAPI and the Schema API: next steps (*) - A plan to get some more CCK/Views into core (*)

I do not think we (Eaton+me) will have more ideas for FAPI, all the common grunts were solved w/ FAPI3, not until D6 is out, modules are ported and projects are ongoing will the flaws come to light. Let's get back to FAPI at the spring Drupalcon (Toronto?).

Yep, I'm with Karoly on this one. There are some cleanup bits and things we didn't necessarily have time for in FAPI3 (making form_set_values() and form_set_error() simpler, etc) but those are tweaks and polishing moves rather than architectural shifts. It will take time, time for porting and exploration and envelope- pushing, to make it clear what changes the next generation will need. SchemaAPI and how it ties in to both CCK and Views is definitely an important issue. There's also the possibility of programmatically generating basic CRUD screens from SchemaAPI definitions; now that we can store table and column metadata, and are beginning to explore relationships, Ruby-esque auto-generation of CRUD scaffolding is within the realm of possibility. --Jeff

On 8/6/07, Dries Buytaert <dries.buytaert@gmail.com> wrote:

Some more ideas: - Running a Drupal Local User Group: lessons learned

For those interested: http://barcelona2007.drupalcon.org/node/433 Regards, Greg -- Greg Knaddison Denver, CO | http://knaddison.com World Spanish Tour | http://wanderlusting.org/user/greg

On 6-Aug-07, at 2:34 PM, Earl Miles wrote:

Angela Byron wrote:

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I only ended up getting to maybe half of what I wanted to in Brussels and OSCMS because I'm "the nice core developer" and get cornered a lot with questions from new people who want to know how to contribute, etc. and how can I resist that? :D It would be awesome to be able to say, "Sure, meet me over by the plaid couch during the morning break, and we'll talk." :)

This sounds like a presentation, to me.

Touché! I'll go add that in a second. But hopefully that doesn't nullify the point that not having back-to- back presentations on all three days might be a feature, not a bug. ;) -Angie

Angela Byron wrote:

On 6-Aug-07, at 2:34 PM, Earl Miles wrote:

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Angela Byron wrote:

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I only ended up getting to maybe half of what I wanted to in Brussels and OSCMS because I'm "the nice core developer" and get cornered a lot with questions from new people who want to know how to contribute, etc. and how can I resist that? :D It would be awesome to be able to say, "Sure, meet me over by the plaid couch during the morning break, and we'll talk." :)

This sounds like a presentation, to me.

Touché! I'll go add that in a second.

But hopefully that doesn't nullify the point that not having back-to-back presentations on all three days might be a feature, not a bug. ;)

Sure, but it makes sense to select the best proposals from a lot more presentation suggestions *and* leave space/time for socializing :) Having looked through the session suggestions, I am sure all topic will be brought up either they are accepted officially or not. Gabor

On 6-Aug-07, at 4:08 PM, Larry Garfield wrote:

On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 14:23:18 -0400, Angela Byron <drupal- devel@webchick.net> wrote:

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I only ended up getting to maybe half of what I wanted to in Brussels and OSCMS because I'm "the nice core developer" and get cornered a lot with questions from new people who want to know how to contribute, etc. and how can I resist that? :D

<snip> PS: webchick, are you saying the rest of us aren't nice? :-(

LOL no! Not at all! You guys are awesome. But some people are very intimidated and so PM me on IRC and corner me in conferences to ask for guidance because I guess I seem more approachable or something. I've been called "the NICE core developer" by a couple of said people, so it's kind of a running joke. ;) -Angie