Installing via Ubuntu apt-get
Hi: I installed Drupal with the Ubuntu command: apt-get install drupal6 In reviewing Drupal documentation about setting up files, modules, and so forth, many things don't seem to be the same in the Ubuntu installation. For example, the files are not as suggested in /usr/share/drupal6/sites. Does anybody know of a good source of documentation on what the Ubuntu installation does, where it puts things, and what we need to do as administrators and designers in getting started? Many thanks. Chris ---------------------------------------- Christopher Gray, President Bay Area Digital Promoting good health with great technology 870 Market Street, #653 San Francisco, CA 94102 Phone: (415) 217-6667 fax: (415) 962-2520 Email: chris@bayareadigital.us
Hi, Havent tried installing drupal using ubuntu, but why not give drush a try? Drush comes with lots of cool package manager kind of commands which makes your life as a drupal dev/admin easier. Check out drush at http://drupal.org/project/drush But would like to know if there are benefits of apt-get way of installing or maintaining drupal installations, though I think drush is much more advance and convenient when it comes to drupal way of doing things. Cheers ---------------------------------- Dipen Chaudhary Founder, QED42 : We build beautiful and scalable web strategies ( www.qed42.com ) Blog: dipenchaudhary.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/dipench On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Christopher Gray <chris@bayareadigital.us>wrote:
Hi:
I installed Drupal with the Ubuntu command:
apt-get install drupal6
In reviewing Drupal documentation about setting up files, modules, and so forth, many things don't seem to be the same in the Ubuntu installation. For example, the files are not as suggested in /usr/share/drupal6/sites. Does anybody know of a good source of documentation on what the Ubuntu installation does, where it puts things, and what we need to do as administrators and designers in getting started?
Many thanks.
Chris
---------------------------------------- Christopher Gray, President Bay Area Digital
Promoting good health with great technology
870 Market Street, #653 San Francisco, CA 94102 Phone: (415) 217-6667 fax: (415) 962-2520 Email: chris@bayareadigital.us -- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ]
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 5:11 AM, Dipen <dipench@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Havent tried installing drupal using ubuntu, but why not give drush a try? Drush comes with lots of cool package manager kind of commands which makes your life as a drupal dev/admin easier. Check out drush at http://drupal.org/project/drush
But would like to know if there are benefits of apt-get way of installing or maintaining drupal installations, though I think drush is much more advance and convenient when it comes to drupal way of doing things.
Cheers ---------------------------------- Dipen Chaudhary Founder, QED42 : We build beautiful and scalable web strategies ( www.qed42.com ) Blog: dipenchaudhary.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/dipench
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Christopher Gray < chris@bayareadigital.us> wrote:
Hi:
I installed Drupal with the Ubuntu command:
apt-get install drupal6
In reviewing Drupal documentation about setting up files, modules, and so forth, many things don't seem to be the same in the Ubuntu installation. For example, the files are not as suggested in /usr/share/drupal6/sites. Does anybody know of a good source of documentation on what the Ubuntu installation does, where it puts things, and what we need to do as administrators and designers in getting started?
Many thanks.
Chris
---------------------------------------- Christopher Gray, President Bay Area Digital
Promoting good health with great technology
870 Market Street, #653 San Francisco, CA 94102 Phone: (415) 217-6667 fax: (415) 962-2520 Email: chris@bayareadigital.us --
I second Dipen's endorsement of Drush. I both an ardent Ubuntu and Drupal user but I abandoned the apt-get package a long time ago. The current version in "universe" is 6.12-1.1ubuntu1 which means you face a immediate "core" update.
I host a couple dozen Drupal sites and my current scheme is to install Drupal in each users file space. Some users have more than one Drupal site so I used the pattern /home/user/public_html/domain_name/. Then I establish a virtual in "sites-available" pointing back to the user space and add the domain to /etc/bind. I wound up maintaining all of the drupal installations anyway to having unique "core" installations only increased my maintenance. I am about to move them all to "multisite" and point "sites/domain_name" back to user space preserving user ability to modify their modules, themes and files via ftp. With reluctance, I offer an "old" install-script - http://drupal.ls.net/content/install-script-ubuntu-and-debian as a guide. The versions are out of date. I expect to complete the move to multisite by May 15th. Jim -- Rev. Jim Tarvid, PCA Galax, Virginia http://ls.net http://drupal.ls.net http://crossleft.org
I'll check out drush. No harm in learning something new. In Ubuntu, the apt-get utility is extremely handy for installing things because updates/upgrades are handled virtually automatically. It is specific to Ubuntu/Debian flavors of Linux. Chris On Mon, 26 Apr 2010, Dipen wrote:
Hi,
Havent tried installing drupal using ubuntu, but why not give drush a try? Drush comes with lots of cool package manager kind of commands which makes your life as a drupal dev/admin easier. Check out drush at http://drupal.org/project/drush
But would like to know if there are benefits of apt-get way of installing or maintaining drupal installations, though I think drush is much more advance and convenient when it comes to drupal way of doing things.
Cheers ---------------------------------- Dipen Chaudhary Founder, QED42 : We build beautiful and scalable web strategies ( www.qed42.com ) Blog: dipenchaudhary.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/dipench
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Christopher Gray <chris@bayareadigital.us>wrote:
Hi:
I installed Drupal with the Ubuntu command:
apt-get install drupal6
In reviewing Drupal documentation about setting up files, modules, and so forth, many things don't seem to be the same in the Ubuntu installation. For example, the files are not as suggested in /usr/share/drupal6/sites. Does anybody know of a good source of documentation on what the Ubuntu installation does, where it puts things, and what we need to do as administrators and designers in getting started?
Many thanks.
Chris
---------------------------------------- Christopher Gray, President Bay Area Digital
Promoting good health with great technology
870 Market Street, #653 San Francisco, CA 94102 Phone: (415) 217-6667 fax: (415) 962-2520 Email: chris@bayareadigital.us -- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ]
---------------------------------------- Christopher Gray, President Bay Area Digital Promoting good health with great technology 870 Market Street, #653 San Francisco, CA 94102 Phone: (415) 217-6667 fax: (415) 962-2520 Email: chris@bayareadigital.us
Christopher Gray wrote:
Hi:
I installed Drupal with the Ubuntu command:
apt-get install drupal6
In reviewing Drupal documentation about setting up files, modules, and so forth, many things don't seem to be the same in the Ubuntu installation. For example, the files are not as suggested in /usr/share/drupal6/sites. Does anybody know of a good source of documentation on what the Ubuntu installation does, where it puts things, and what we need to do as administrators and designers in getting started?
One of the downfalls of apt-get is that your dependent on the package maintainer to take care of where to put the files. If the install didn't put it in /usr/share/drupal6 where did the package install? Maybe look in /var/www for your Drupal installation or use the locate command to find it if you have updatedb executed in cron. -- Earnie -- http://progw.com -- http://www.for-my-kids.com
To find out where the package maintainer has put the things (Debian, at least, has a very strict policy on where to put certain types of files), you could always do a: dpkg -L drupal6 That will list all installed files from that package. But I have made the experience, too, that running fast moving webapps from a debian package is not the best idea... Regards, Jens
Jens Hoffrichter wrote:
To find out where the package maintainer has put the things (Debian, at least, has a very strict policy on where to put certain types of files), you could always do a:
dpkg -L drupal6
I knew there must be a way like that but wasn't familiar enough to say.
That will list all installed files from that package.
But I have made the experience, too, that running fast moving webapps from a debian package is not the best idea...
Yes, I agree. Either grab the tarball and install manually or use a script similar to drush but even scripts like drush are a kind of package installer. :) -- Earnie -- http://progw.com -- http://www.for-my-kids.com
Hi Christopher, you might want to try installing: http://acquia.com/downloads/acquia-drupal-deb Which will give you a preconfigured Drupal stack with training wheels. You can import and run any Drupal code base but it installs Acquia Drupal by default. It even comes with documentation: http://acquia.com/documentation/acquia-deb-package Cheers, Kieran On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Christopher Gray <chris@bayareadigital.us>wrote:
Hi:
I installed Drupal with the Ubuntu command:
apt-get install drupal6
In reviewing Drupal documentation about setting up files, modules, and so forth, many things don't seem to be the same in the Ubuntu installation. For example, the files are not as suggested in /usr/share/drupal6/sites. Does anybody know of a good source of documentation on what the Ubuntu installation does, where it puts things, and what we need to do as administrators and designers in getting started?
Many thanks.
Chris
---------------------------------------- Christopher Gray, President Bay Area Digital
Promoting good health with great technology
870 Market Street, #653 San Francisco, CA 94102 Phone: (415) 217-6667 fax: (415) 962-2520 Email: chris@bayareadigital.us -- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ]
I am a long time Debian/Ubuntu power user, and am very fond of apt and its tools. That said, if I were you, I would not use the version available from apt. Apt is very good at what it does, but handling the details of a CMS for you is probably not one of those things. At least according to my installation here, the current version of D6 available from apt, is 6.10. That alone should make you rethink. (I apologize if another version of ubuntu has a more updated package, but still). I would not trust apt to upgrade anything but a very simple drupal site anyway, so the advantages of the package manager are rather limited in this case. Drush is something else entirely--apt will not handle module installations in drupal for you; drush will, among other useful things. As for the location of files: Ubuntu/Debian have their own way of placing files, as do all other distributions. For example, web files usually go somewhere under /var/www. That makes perfect sense to me, but maybe not to someone else. I just download my own drupal tarballs, and open them under /var/www, or in whatever other directory seems appropriate, and go from there. One thing apt is certain not likely to handle for you, is multiple drupal installations on a single system. Regards, Luke On Sun, 25 Apr 2010, Christopher Gray wrote:
Hi:
I installed Drupal with the Ubuntu command:
apt-get install drupal6
In reviewing Drupal documentation about setting up files, modules, and so forth, many things don't seem to be the same in the Ubuntu installation. For example, the files are not as suggested in /usr/share/drupal6/sites. Does anybody know of a good source of documentation on what the Ubuntu installation does, where it puts things, and what we need to do as administrators and designers in getting started?
Many thanks.
Chris
---------------------------------------- Christopher Gray, President Bay Area Digital
Promoting good health with great technology
870 Market Street, #653 San Francisco, CA 94102 Phone: (415) 217-6667 fax: (415) 962-2520 Email: chris@bayareadigital.us
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