On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:07:50 +0200 Florent JOUSSEAUME <florent.jousseaume@makina-corpus.com> wrote:

For your example, this is not a switch, but 2 modules with differents ACL. The block 'login' is displayed for 'Anonymous' and the menu is displayed for 'Authenticated user' (block Navigation).

For the element's visibility in the menu, this is with the user_access method defined in the function 'hook_menu' for each module.

It looks a bit hakish. And I still can't get it completely. 1) path user points to user_login if(uid) otherwise it should point to something else... but what is the alternative? In user_menu all paths are user/[something else] or admin/user/... I can't understand why once the user is logged in and the path user/[uid] becomes available the path /user reaches user_view 2) I can't yet understand the magic that make -My account appear in the Menu admin pages as locked. I still haven't had the time to read the code. 3) I miss how I can *render* menu with the admin interface and/or in modules. I'd expect that if I build up a $items hierarchy I could build up a menu from the "admin" interface adding a path and the menu system will take care of rendering children once I eg. put the menu in a block. What if I'd like to render the menu inside my code? I think I should use menu_tree... but well I bet there are a lot of tricks I could learn without guessing them from the API. 4) I haven't seen any tutorial, handbook... on any of the menu_ family of function. There is nothing on "Pro Drupal development" book. thanks -- Ivan Sergio Borgonovo http://www.webthatworks.it

I thing This code enough for u, Just copy this module into your site/module.... On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Metzler, David <metzlerd@evergreen.edu>wrote:

The reason that these menus is because a.) they appear in the if (!$may_cache) section of the hook_menu and b.) thay are wrapped in an if ($user !== FALSE) condition.

Note that there is also a separate /user path registered in the if ($may_cache) section of the hook_menu. This is the "default" path for /user and what shows up in the admin/menu screen.

You may be grappling with one of the core troubles with Drupal 5. Only menus that are in the if ($may_cache) section of the module may be moved around with the admin/menu user interface. If it's a dynamic menu, you just don't see it there. So if you make a dynamic menu item, you can't turn around and move it into a block. Although you may be able to move a the static parent menu item (defined in the if ($may_cache) section of the menu into a separate menu and menu block. This took me a little time to grok.

Finally you can't have the code define a new menu, but only create a menu tree section in code and then move it later using the admin menu interface.

Is that clearing any of this up for you?

Here's the relavent chunk of user_menu code for understanding. if ($may_cache) { $items[] = array('path' => 'user', 'title' => t('User account'), 'callback' => 'drupal_get_form', 'callback arguments' => array('user_login'), 'access' => !$user->uid, 'type' => MENU_CALLBACK);

$items[] = array('path' => 'user/autocomplete', 'title' => t('User autocomplete'), 'callback' => 'user_autocomplete', 'access' => $view_access, 'type' => MENU_CALLBACK); ... Bunch of code ommitted....

} else { ... Some code ommitted. if ($user !== FALSE) { // Always let a user view their own account $view_access |= $user->uid == arg(1); // Only admins can view blocked accounts $view_access &= $account->status || $admin_access;

$items[] = array('path' => 'user/'. arg(1), 'title' => t('User'), 'type' => MENU_CALLBACK, 'callback' => 'user_view', 'callback arguments' => array(arg(1)), 'access' => $view_access);

$items[] = array('path' => 'user/'. arg(1) .'/view', 'title' => t('View'), 'access' => $view_access, 'type' => MENU_DEFAULT_LOCAL_TASK, 'weight' => -10);

$items[] = array('path' => 'user/'. arg(1) .'/edit', 'title' => t('Edit'), 'callback' => 'drupal_get_form', 'callback arguments' => array('user_edit'), 'access' => $admin_access || $user->uid == arg(1), 'type' => MENU_LOCAL_TASK); $items[] = array('path' => 'user/'. arg(1) .'/delete', 'title' => t('Delete'), 'callback' => 'user_edit', 'access' => $admin_access, 'type' => MENU_CALLBACK);

if (arg(2) == 'edit') { if (($categories = _user_categories($account)) && (count($categories) > 1)) { foreach ($categories as $key => $category) { $items[] = array( 'path' => 'user/'. arg(1) .'/edit/'. $category['name'], 'title' => $category['title'], 'type' => $category['name'] == 'account' ? MENU_DEFAULT_LOCAL_TASK : MENU_LOCAL_TASK, 'weight' => $category['weight'], 'access' => ($admin_access || $user->uid == arg(1))); } } } } } -----Original Message----- From: support-bounces@drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces@drupal.org] On Behalf Of Ivan Sergio Borgonovo Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 8:43 AM To: support@drupal.org Subject: Re: [support] tutorial on dynamically generating menu in D5

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:07:50 +0200 Florent JOUSSEAUME <florent.jousseaume@makina-corpus.com> wrote:

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For your example, this is not a switch, but 2 modules with differents ACL. The block 'login' is displayed for 'Anonymous' and the menu is displayed for 'Authenticated user' (block Navigation).

For the element's visibility in the menu, this is with the user_access

...

method defined in the function 'hook_menu' for each module.

It looks a bit hakish. And I still can't get it completely.

1) path user points to user_login if(uid) otherwise it should point to something else... but what is the alternative? In user_menu all paths are user/[something else] or admin/user/... I can't understand why once the user is logged in and the path user/[uid] becomes available the path /user reaches user_view

2) I can't yet understand the magic that make -My account appear in the Menu admin pages as locked. I still haven't had the time to read the code.

3) I miss how I can *render* menu with the admin interface and/or in modules. I'd expect that if I build up a $items hierarchy I could build up a menu from the "admin" interface adding a path and the menu system will take care of rendering children once I eg. put the menu in a block. What if I'd like to render the menu inside my code? I think I should use menu_tree... but well I bet there are a lot of tricks I could learn without guessing them from the API.

4) I haven't seen any tutorial, handbook... on any of the menu_ family of function. There is nothing on "Pro Drupal development" book.

thanks

-- Ivan Sergio Borgonovo http://www.webthatworks.it

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did you mean swap($may_cache,!$may_cache)?

No I don't think so, but maybe I didn't word that sentence well enough.

I didn't notice the (!may_cache) section since what I'd expect to be a $items[] = array('path' => 'user' ... is actually written as if ($_GET['q'] == 'user' Why?

That chunk of code is really wrapping a a redirect. It's saying if you're on the 'user' page (not subpages) and we're logged in then goto user/{uid}. The code that builds the $items array is a few lines down and incidently is not hit if you just goto yousite/user. If you visit the yoursite/user page and watch the url line you'll see the redirect that's happening. But this isn't really part of building menus at all.

The "My account" hook is defined as MENU_DYNAMIC_ITEM in the $may_cache section... Does it works as expected because once a user is logged in cache can't be used?

No that's not true. Cache can be used whether or not a user is logged in, but the $items array in the if (!$maycache) section may register new menu paths that weren't available when you're logged in. Menu items are cached for anonymous users as well. But MENU_DYNAMIC_ITEMS are never cached. Note that the tabs for that page are rendered later, in the if (!may_cache) section

Do you mean "I can't put it into a block with the admin interface"? If I had a path=>'root' in $may_cache and a path=>'root/otherstuff' in !$may_cache do you mean I won't see the later? Wouldn't it be enough to just define path=>'root/otherstuff' as MENU_DYNAMIC_ITEM and place it in the $may_cache section?

I really just meant that you can't manipulate root/otherstuff in the admin interface at all. I'm not really familiar with MENU_DYNAMIC_ITEM. I think it's historical. The same kind of dynamic menu items appear in the if (!may_cache ). Either way your menu items can't be altered in the admin interface.

What does it mean I can't have code defining a new menu? I can actually define conditionally a menu tree even in the $may_cache section. I didn't see user.module calling menu_rebuild but eg. taxonomy_menu rebuild the menu when the taxonomy hook is fired.

I mean that you can't define something that is in its own block by default. All menus in code start out in the "Navigation Menu".

When does the menu_rebuild have to be called if I have dynamic menu?

It doesn't because items in this sections are built at every page load, and not stored in the database at all. The menu_rebuild functioin is simply a cache clearing mecahnism.

I won't just have to deal with menu appearing and disappearing according to access but also on other conditions. eg. if I'd like to dynamically create a menu "See this list" just when the user (even anonymous user) has some item in the list?

You may find DYNAMIC_MENU_ITEM to be enough, but I have never used it, so can't attest to the differences. I really do think it's an older way of achieving the same thing.

What if I want to change at which depth I want to start to render a menu in a block? As you hinted at in your root example, the starting point simply needs to be a static menu (meaning that it is in the if ($may_cache) section of hook menu, and hence movable by the admin interface.

Then what is the difference between defining a menu DYNAMIC or placing it in the !$may_cache section? I think MENU_DYNAMIC_ITEM is a hold-over from the past, but I'm not sure. As I've said, I didn't use it much and I've always been told to put dynamic menus in the if (!may_cache) section.

Still didn't get it. As you said... if at least a parent is in the $may_cache system I could use the admin interface to add a block that contain a hierarchy even if some sub menu may be dynamic or in the !$may_cache section. Is it?

I think that this is doable, yes.

What if all my menu is dynamic? How can I place a menu in a block?

You can't. If all your menu is dynamic you can't place it in another block.

Still reading the api... but it seems that this part of Drupal lack tutorials, examples or books that explain how to use >it. I checked twice "Pro Drupal Dev" and I didn't find anything interesting about dynamic menu, there is nothing even in the >cache section. I gave a quick look to "Learning D6 module development" but it doesn't seem to contain any useful info on this topic.

In D6 the menu system was completely overhauled and is very different from D5. In those you simply write a and access function and have it get called. IF the access function returns true, then you're menu item gets displayed. Don't think of the access function as simply being about permissions. In d6, dynamic paths are achieved with wild_cards. You register user/%/edit to get the user edit page where the uid passed as a parameter. In D5 this approach will not work because the user_access function is not called on every page_load. It's results get cahced at login, so you have to use the if (!may_cache) section in order to achieve truly dynamic menus. thanks -- Ivan Sergio Borgonovo http://www.webthatworks.it -- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ]