[consulting] and they call it drupalcamp

Dan Robinson dan at civicactions.com
Thu Feb 23 04:31:44 UTC 2006 

hear hear - great minds think alike.


> Well seeing how there's a discussion going on about having one... why
> not have a few? does it hurt to have more than one DrupalCamp?
>
> Using the Barcamp style, I've tossed up a DrupalCampNYC page @
> http://barcamp.org/DrupalCampNYC
>
> i know even if it's a small gathering of drupal users, it would be
> important for my employer, the new york state senate, to chat with
> other drupal developers and vendors outside of the PDF.
>
> Noel
>
>
> On Feb 22, 2006, at 10:33 PM, Michael Haggerty wrote:
>
>> I have some conference room space in Manhattan I get for free through
>> some
>> club memberships. I was planning to offer this for use around the PDF. I
>> have not actually been there before, but understand it can
>> accommodate large
>> groups, has projectors, microphones, etc.
>>
>> As for where to do something in the meantime, everyone come down to Las
>> Vegas and let's do this right. Ample conference facilities are located
>> throughout the city, airfare and lodging are cheaper here than
>> anywhere else
>> in the United States, there are several large LUGs who can feed
>> people to
>> the event, there is plenty of entertainment in the off hours and very
>> few
>> people will pass on a trip down here even if it is in their interests to
>> stay home. Everything is open all day and all night, meaning people can
>> break off into side groups at their leisure without getting jacked up
>> by the
>> draconian business norms of other localities. I have contacts at
>> multiple
>> hotels who can get us deals on lodging, conference rooms, catering,
>> entertainment, and transportation.
>>
>> M
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: consulting-bounces at drupal.org
>>> [mailto:consulting-bounces at drupal.org] On Behalf Of Zack Rosen
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 7:10 PM
>>> To: A list for Drupal consultants and Drupal service/hosting providers
>>> Subject: Re: [consulting] and they call it drupalcamp
>>>
>>> Ok - somebody propose another place / time :)
>>>
>>> Ideally it would be
>>> * Soon
>>> * In conjunction with another event people will be attending
>>> * Close to a lot of Drupal shops (NYC, DC, Bay Area seem to be the
>>> hotspots)
>>> * Cheap
>>> * Near a venue we can use.  If it's in the Bay Area I have a
>>> few ideas....
>>>
>>> -Zack
>>>
>>> On Feb 22, 2006, at 6:49 PM, Dan Robinson wrote:
>>>
>>>> Anybody think we could do this sooner?  like 2-3 weeks from now?
>>>> We've
>>>> had to turn away work recently because there is just too much.  I
>>>> happen to know that other Drupal shops who were approached re: the
>>>> same work are also slammed and don't have bandwidth.  On location -
>>>>
>>>> NY - You get Boston, DC, Philly for the price of one - yes
>>> it is more
>>>> expensive - key thing would be to arrange very cheap housing.
>>>> SF - cheaper - not as dense a population - more likely to
>>> find crash
>>>> space.
>>>>
>>>> I think we need to get this done :)
>>>>
>>>> Dan
>>>>
>>>>> As posted here:
>>>>> http://www.zacker.org/drupal-camp
>>>>>
>>>>> The CivicActions folks are starting to organize the first "Drupal
>>>>> Camp", a multi-day intensive Drupal developer training program.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why?
>>>>> Every Drupal shop I know of is in a crunch of Drupal development
>>>>> talent. The limit on their ability to take on more and bigger
>>>>> projects is not from lack of sales leads or lack of management
>>>>> capability, it is simply there are not enough seasoned
>>> developers on
>>>>> hand to pay to work on Drupal development projects. An experienced
>>>>> and talented web-application developer will take a bit of time to
>>>>> learn Drupal inside and out and get up to speed developing complex
>>>>> websites, so it is not simply a matter of bringing in
>>> fresh talent,
>>>>> we need fresh Drupal talent. The Drupal economy is
>>> rocketing skyward
>>>>> and this problem will only become more intense in the forseable
>>>>> future.
>>>>> This is
>>>>> an immediate and growing problem that we need to start solving now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Who?
>>>>>
>>>>>    1. Drupal newbies sponsored by their parent companies
>>>>> (CivicActions, Trellon, etc)
>>>>>    2. Drupal engineering experts to lead the class. Anyone up for
>>>>> this? :) (Matt Westgate, Crunchywelch provided he doesn't drown?).
>>>>>    3. Other Drupal folks in the neighborhood also might
>>> want to get
>>>>> together for a code sprint or to discuss Drupal projects.
>>>>>
>>>>> When?
>>>>> At Vancouver Josh and I floated out the idea of doing it in
>>>>> conjunction with the Personal Democracy Forum on May 15th.
>>> This dates
>>>>> works with me, does it sound reasonable to you?
>>>>>
>>>>> Where?
>>>>> If we do it in NYC in conjunction with PDF, I can think of two
>>>>> possiblities off the top of my head:
>>>>>
>>>>>    1. The Tank
>>>>>    2. EyeBeam
>>>>>
>>>>> I will follow up with my contacts at both of these venues tomorrow.
>>>>> Does anyone know of another possible venue?
>>>>>
>>>>> Curriculum
>>>>>
>>>>> We should make sure that whatever is taugh and learned at "Drupal
>>>>> Camp" is recorded and synthesized for posterity. We want
>>> to have many
>>>>> more of these in the future so we should aim for publish-able
>>>>> curriculum that can be later posted on Drupal.org.
>>>>>
>>>>> Next Steps?
>>>>>
>>>>>    1. Gregory Heller is organizing a consultant conference call to
>>>>> talk about this and other issues shortly on the consultat
>>>>> mailinglist.
>>>>>    2. David Geilhufe proposed we look into the former Ars Digita
>>>>> training camps. I'll sign up to follow up and do some research and
>>>>> try to talk to folks involved in organizing them.
>>>>>    3. We need to figure out a data / location. Unless someone can
>>>>> come up with a better data / location than PDF on May 15th
>>> let's go
>>>>> with that. I will start looking seriously into venues tomorrow.
>>>>>    4. We need to line up the teaching staff and get firm
>>> commitments
>>>>> from vendors to sponsor newbies. I can take this on
>>> starting Friday.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> -Zack
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 22, 2006, at 5:59 PM, Gregory Heller wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps the problem sets could include things like:
>>>>>> Port a contributed module from 4.6 to 4.7?
>>>>>> Integrate bug fixes or patches for a module
>>>>>>
>>>>>> they could be submitted by the community, or culled from the forum
>>>>>> http://drupal.org/forum/51
>>>>>> any revenue generated could go to defray costs for space, food,
>>>>>> trainer's and organizer's time, back to drupal, and maybe to the
>>>>>> "student" in an amount no greater than the cost of the camp (if
>>>>>> there is a cost associated).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another option could be completing an entire website
>>> project for a
>>>>>> non profit organization.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David Geilhufe wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Back in the dot com boom, a company called ARS Digita did "boot
>>>>>>> camps."  I like the name "Drupal Camp"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> These basically were 2-5 day training sessions for
>>> developers. You
>>>>>>> went the camp, learned some basics and then completed
>>> some "problem
>>>>>>> sets" collaboratively with the folks at the boot camp. A problem
>>>>>>> set would be something like creating a module. Perhaps
>>> the problems
>>>>>>> could be something like:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. Create a basic module.
>>>>>>> 2. Create a module that exercises parts of the Drupal API
>>>>>>> thoroughly.
>>>>>>> 3. Create a new theme
>>>>>>> 4. ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This would also be a great addition to the handbook for folks to
>>>>>>> self-study.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If someone with more drupal skills were to work with me,
>>> we could
>>>>>>> come up with a few problem sets to start putting together on the
>>>>>>> Handbook.
>>>>>>> david
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------
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