[consulting] and they call it drupalcamp

Noel Hidalgo nhidalgo at mac.com
Thu Feb 23 04:27:29 UTC 2006

Well seeing how there's a discussion going on about having one... why  
not have a few? does it hurt to have more than one DrupalCamp?

Using the Barcamp style, I've tossed up a DrupalCampNYC page @ http:// 

i know even if it's a small gathering of drupal users, it would be  
important for my employer, the new york state senate, to chat with  
other drupal developers and vendors outside of the PDF.


On Feb 22, 2006, at 10:33 PM, Michael Haggerty wrote:

> I have some conference room space in Manhattan I get for free  
> through some
> club memberships. I was planning to offer this for use around the  
> PDF. I
> have not actually been there before, but understand it can  
> accommodate large
> groups, has projectors, microphones, etc.
> As for where to do something in the meantime, everyone come down to  
> Las
> Vegas and let's do this right. Ample conference facilities are located
> throughout the city, airfare and lodging are cheaper here than  
> anywhere else
> in the United States, there are several large LUGs who can feed  
> people to
> the event, there is plenty of entertainment in the off hours and  
> very few
> people will pass on a trip down here even if it is in their  
> interests to
> stay home. Everything is open all day and all night, meaning people  
> can
> break off into side groups at their leisure without getting jacked  
> up by the
> draconian business norms of other localities. I have contacts at  
> multiple
> hotels who can get us deals on lodging, conference rooms, catering,
> entertainment, and transportation.
> M
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: consulting-bounces at drupal.org
>> [mailto:consulting-bounces at drupal.org] On Behalf Of Zack Rosen
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 7:10 PM
>> To: A list for Drupal consultants and Drupal service/hosting  
>> providers
>> Subject: Re: [consulting] and they call it drupalcamp
>> Ok - somebody propose another place / time :)
>> Ideally it would be
>> * Soon
>> * In conjunction with another event people will be attending
>> * Close to a lot of Drupal shops (NYC, DC, Bay Area seem to be the
>> hotspots)
>> * Cheap
>> * Near a venue we can use.  If it's in the Bay Area I have a
>> few ideas....
>> -Zack
>> On Feb 22, 2006, at 6:49 PM, Dan Robinson wrote:
>>> Anybody think we could do this sooner?  like 2-3 weeks from now?
>>> We've
>>> had to turn away work recently because there is just too much.  I
>>> happen to know that other Drupal shops who were approached re: the
>>> same work are also slammed and don't have bandwidth.  On location -
>>> NY - You get Boston, DC, Philly for the price of one - yes
>> it is more
>>> expensive - key thing would be to arrange very cheap housing.
>>> SF - cheaper - not as dense a population - more likely to
>> find crash
>>> space.
>>> I think we need to get this done :)
>>> Dan
>>>> As posted here:
>>>> http://www.zacker.org/drupal-camp
>>>> The CivicActions folks are starting to organize the first "Drupal
>>>> Camp", a multi-day intensive Drupal developer training program.
>>>> Why?
>>>> Every Drupal shop I know of is in a crunch of Drupal development
>>>> talent. The limit on their ability to take on more and bigger
>>>> projects is not from lack of sales leads or lack of management
>>>> capability, it is simply there are not enough seasoned
>> developers on
>>>> hand to pay to work on Drupal development projects. An experienced
>>>> and talented web-application developer will take a bit of time to
>>>> learn Drupal inside and out and get up to speed developing complex
>>>> websites, so it is not simply a matter of bringing in
>> fresh talent,
>>>> we need fresh Drupal talent. The Drupal economy is
>> rocketing skyward
>>>> and this problem will only become more intense in the forseable
>>>> future.
>>>> This is
>>>> an immediate and growing problem that we need to start solving now.
>>>> Who?
>>>>    1. Drupal newbies sponsored by their parent companies
>>>> (CivicActions, Trellon, etc)
>>>>    2. Drupal engineering experts to lead the class. Anyone up for
>>>> this? :) (Matt Westgate, Crunchywelch provided he doesn't drown?).
>>>>    3. Other Drupal folks in the neighborhood also might
>> want to get
>>>> together for a code sprint or to discuss Drupal projects.
>>>> When?
>>>> At Vancouver Josh and I floated out the idea of doing it in
>>>> conjunction with the Personal Democracy Forum on May 15th.
>> This dates
>>>> works with me, does it sound reasonable to you?
>>>> Where?
>>>> If we do it in NYC in conjunction with PDF, I can think of two
>>>> possiblities off the top of my head:
>>>>    1. The Tank
>>>>    2. EyeBeam
>>>> I will follow up with my contacts at both of these venues tomorrow.
>>>> Does anyone know of another possible venue?
>>>> Curriculum
>>>> We should make sure that whatever is taugh and learned at "Drupal
>>>> Camp" is recorded and synthesized for posterity. We want
>> to have many
>>>> more of these in the future so we should aim for publish-able
>>>> curriculum that can be later posted on Drupal.org.
>>>> Next Steps?
>>>>    1. Gregory Heller is organizing a consultant conference call to
>>>> talk about this and other issues shortly on the consultat
>>>> mailinglist.
>>>>    2. David Geilhufe proposed we look into the former Ars Digita
>>>> training camps. I'll sign up to follow up and do some research and
>>>> try to talk to folks involved in organizing them.
>>>>    3. We need to figure out a data / location. Unless someone can
>>>> come up with a better data / location than PDF on May 15th
>> let's go
>>>> with that. I will start looking seriously into venues tomorrow.
>>>>    4. We need to line up the teaching staff and get firm
>> commitments
>>>> from vendors to sponsor newbies. I can take this on
>> starting Friday.
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>> -Zack
>>>> On Feb 22, 2006, at 5:59 PM, Gregory Heller wrote:
>>>>> Perhaps the problem sets could include things like:
>>>>> Port a contributed module from 4.6 to 4.7?
>>>>> Integrate bug fixes or patches for a module
>>>>> they could be submitted by the community, or culled from the forum
>>>>> http://drupal.org/forum/51
>>>>> any revenue generated could go to defray costs for space, food,
>>>>> trainer's and organizer's time, back to drupal, and maybe to the
>>>>> "student" in an amount no greater than the cost of the camp (if
>>>>> there is a cost associated).
>>>>> Another option could be completing an entire website
>> project for a
>>>>> non profit organization.
>>>>> David Geilhufe wrote:
>>>>>> Back in the dot com boom, a company called ARS Digita did "boot
>>>>>> camps."  I like the name "Drupal Camp"
>>>>>> These basically were 2-5 day training sessions for
>> developers. You
>>>>>> went the camp, learned some basics and then completed
>> some "problem
>>>>>> sets" collaboratively with the folks at the boot camp. A problem
>>>>>> set would be something like creating a module. Perhaps
>> the problems
>>>>>> could be something like:
>>>>>> 1. Create a basic module.
>>>>>> 2. Create a module that exercises parts of the Drupal API
>>>>>> thoroughly.
>>>>>> 3. Create a new theme
>>>>>> 4. ?
>>>>>> This would also be a great addition to the handbook for folks to
>>>>>> self-study.
>>>>>> If someone with more drupal skills were to work with me,
>> we could
>>>>>> come up with a few problem sets to start putting together on the
>>>>>> Handbook.
>>>>>> david
>>>>> ------
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