[consulting] and they call it drupalcamp

Andrew Hoppin andrew at civicspacelabs.org
Thu Feb 23 07:12:33 UTC 2006 

And if one is held in March, plan DrupalCamp II in conjunction w/ 
YearlyKos in Las Vegas June 8-11.  Let's teach all them Kossacks 
CivicSpace/Drupal at last.

On Feb 22, 2006, at 7:48 PM, Richard Orris wrote:

> I think we need to schedule this at least 4 - 6 weeks to give ample 
> time to plan and for people to clear their schedules and register.
>
> Possible dates in conjunction with events (Dates are for events.  Plan 
> before of after):
> * SXSW - Austin, TX - March 10 - 19
> * N-TEN/Penguin Day - Seattle, WA - March 22 - 25
> * PDF - New York, NY - May 15
> * NetSquared - San Francisco/San Jose, CA - May 30 - 31
>
> Other dates?
>
> We had talked about breaking up bootcamps into module development, 
> theme integration, etc. so there can be an realistic goal instead of 
> just teaching "Drupal".
>
> - Rich
>
> On Feb 22, 2006, at 10:10 PM, Zack Rosen wrote:
>
>> Ok - somebody propose another place / time :)
>>
>> Ideally it would be
>> * Soon
>> * In conjunction with another event people will be attending
>> * Close to a lot of Drupal shops (NYC, DC, Bay Area seem to be the 
>> hotspots)
>> * Cheap
>> * Near a venue we can use.  If it's in the Bay Area I have a few 
>> ideas....
>>
>> -Zack
>>
>> On Feb 22, 2006, at 6:49 PM, Dan Robinson wrote:
>>
>>> Anybody think we could do this sooner?  like 2-3 weeks from now?  
>>> We've
>>> had to turn away work recently because there is just too much.  I 
>>> happen
>>> to know that other Drupal shops who were approached re: the same work
>>> are also slammed and don't have bandwidth.  On location -
>>>
>>> NY - You get Boston, DC, Philly for the price of one - yes it is more
>>> expensive - key thing would be to arrange very cheap housing.
>>> SF - cheaper - not as dense a population - more likely to find crash 
>>> space.
>>>
>>> I think we need to get this done :)
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>> As posted here:
>>>> http://www.zacker.org/drupal-camp
>>>>
>>>> The CivicActions folks are starting to organize the first "Drupal
>>>> Camp", a multi-day intensive Drupal developer training program.
>>>>
>>>> Why?
>>>> Every Drupal shop I know of is in a crunch of Drupal development
>>>> talent. The limit on their ability to take on more and bigger 
>>>> projects
>>>> is not from lack of sales leads or lack of management capability, it
>>>> is simply there are not enough seasoned developers on hand to pay to
>>>> work on Drupal development projects. An experienced and talented
>>>> web-application developer will take a bit of time to learn Drupal
>>>> inside and out and get up to speed developing complex websites, so 
>>>> it
>>>> is not simply a matter of bringing in fresh talent, we need fresh
>>>> Drupal talent. The Drupal economy is rocketing skyward and this
>>>> problem will only become more intense in the forseable future. This 
>>>> is
>>>> an immediate and growing problem that we need to start solving now.
>>>>
>>>> Who?
>>>>
>>>>    1. Drupal newbies sponsored by their parent companies
>>>> (CivicActions, Trellon, etc)
>>>>    2. Drupal engineering experts to lead the class. Anyone up for
>>>> this? :) (Matt Westgate, Crunchywelch provided he doesn't drown?).
>>>>    3. Other Drupal folks in the neighborhood also might want to get
>>>> together for a code sprint or to discuss Drupal projects.
>>>>
>>>> When?
>>>> At Vancouver Josh and I floated out the idea of doing it in
>>>> conjunction with the Personal Democracy Forum on May 15th. This 
>>>> dates
>>>> works with me, does it sound reasonable to you?
>>>>
>>>> Where?
>>>> If we do it in NYC in conjunction with PDF, I can think of two
>>>> possiblities off the top of my head:
>>>>
>>>>    1. The Tank
>>>>    2. EyeBeam
>>>>
>>>> I will follow up with my contacts at both of these venues tomorrow.
>>>> Does anyone know of another possible venue?
>>>>
>>>> Curriculum
>>>>
>>>> We should make sure that whatever is taugh and learned at "Drupal
>>>> Camp" is recorded and synthesized for posterity. We want to have 
>>>> many
>>>> more of these in the future so we should aim for publish-able
>>>> curriculum that can be later posted on Drupal.org.
>>>>
>>>> Next Steps?
>>>>
>>>>    1. Gregory Heller is organizing a consultant conference call to
>>>> talk about this and other issues shortly on the consultat 
>>>> mailinglist.
>>>>    2. David Geilhufe proposed we look into the former Ars Digita
>>>> training camps. I'll sign up to follow up and do some research and 
>>>> try
>>>> to talk to folks involved in organizing them.
>>>>    3. We need to figure out a data / location. Unless someone can 
>>>> come
>>>> up with a better data / location than PDF on May 15th let's go with
>>>> that. I will start looking seriously into venues tomorrow.
>>>>    4. We need to line up the teaching staff and get firm commitments
>>>> from vendors to sponsor newbies. I can take this on starting Friday.
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> -Zack
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 22, 2006, at 5:59 PM, Gregory Heller wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps the problem sets could include things like:
>>>>> Port a contributed module from 4.6 to 4.7?
>>>>> Integrate bug fixes or patches for a module
>>>>>
>>>>> they could be submitted by the community, or culled from the forum
>>>>> http://drupal.org/forum/51
>>>>> any revenue generated could go to defray costs for space, food,
>>>>> trainer's and organizer's time, back to drupal, and maybe to the
>>>>> "student" in an amount no greater than the cost of the camp (if 
>>>>> there is
>>>>> a cost associated).
>>>>>
>>>>> Another option could be completing an entire website project for a 
>>>>> non
>>>>> profit organization.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> David Geilhufe wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Back in the dot com boom, a company called ARS Digita did "boot
>>>>>> camps."  I like the name "Drupal Camp"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These basically were 2-5 day training sessions for developers. You
>>>>>> went the camp, learned some basics and then completed some 
>>>>>> "problem
>>>>>> sets" collaboratively with the folks at the boot camp. A problem 
>>>>>> set
>>>>>> would be something like creating a module. Perhaps the problems 
>>>>>> could
>>>>>> be something like:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Create a basic module.
>>>>>> 2. Create a module that exercises parts of the Drupal API 
>>>>>> thoroughly.
>>>>>> 3. Create a new theme
>>>>>> 4. ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This would also be a great addition to the handbook for folks to
>>>>>> self-study.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If someone with more drupal skills were to work with me, we could 
>>>>>> come
>>>>>> up with a few problem sets to start putting together on the 
>>>>>> Handbook.
>>>>>> david
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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