[consulting] and they call it drupalcamp

Thu Feb 23 03:48:02 UTC 2006

I think we need to schedule this at least 4 - 6 weeks to give ample  
time to plan and for people to clear their schedules and register.

Possible dates in conjunction with events (Dates are for events.   
Plan before of after):
* SXSW - Austin, TX - March 10 - 19
* N-TEN/Penguin Day - Seattle, WA - March 22 - 25
* PDF - New York, NY - May 15
* NetSquared - San Francisco/San Jose, CA - May 30 - 31

Other dates?

We had talked about breaking up bootcamps into module development,  
theme integration, etc. so there can be an realistic goal instead of  
just teaching "Drupal".

- Rich

On Feb 22, 2006, at 10:10 PM, Zack Rosen wrote:

> Ok - somebody propose another place / time :)
>
> Ideally it would be
> * Soon
> * In conjunction with another event people will be attending
> * Close to a lot of Drupal shops (NYC, DC, Bay Area seem to be the  
> hotspots)
> * Cheap
> * Near a venue we can use.  If it's in the Bay Area I have a few  
> ideas....
>
> -Zack
>
> On Feb 22, 2006, at 6:49 PM, Dan Robinson wrote:
>
>> Anybody think we could do this sooner?  like 2-3 weeks from now?   
>> We've
>> had to turn away work recently because there is just too much.  I  
>> happen
>> to know that other Drupal shops who were approached re: the same work
>> are also slammed and don't have bandwidth.  On location -
>>
>> NY - You get Boston, DC, Philly for the price of one - yes it is more
>> expensive - key thing would be to arrange very cheap housing.
>> SF - cheaper - not as dense a population - more likely to find  
>> crash space.
>>
>> I think we need to get this done :)
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>> As posted here:
>>> http://www.zacker.org/drupal-camp
>>>
>>> The CivicActions folks are starting to organize the first "Drupal
>>> Camp", a multi-day intensive Drupal developer training program.
>>>
>>> Why?
>>> Every Drupal shop I know of is in a crunch of Drupal development
>>> talent. The limit on their ability to take on more and bigger  
>>> projects
>>> is not from lack of sales leads or lack of management capability, it
>>> is simply there are not enough seasoned developers on hand to pay to
>>> work on Drupal development projects. An experienced and talented
>>> web-application developer will take a bit of time to learn Drupal
>>> inside and out and get up to speed developing complex websites,  
>>> so it
>>> is not simply a matter of bringing in fresh talent, we need fresh
>>> Drupal talent. The Drupal economy is rocketing skyward and this
>>> problem will only become more intense in the forseable future.  
>>> This is
>>> an immediate and growing problem that we need to start solving now.
>>>
>>> Who?
>>>
>>>    1. Drupal newbies sponsored by their parent companies
>>> (CivicActions, Trellon, etc)
>>>    2. Drupal engineering experts to lead the class. Anyone up for
>>> this? :) (Matt Westgate, Crunchywelch provided he doesn't drown?).
>>>    3. Other Drupal folks in the neighborhood also might want to get
>>> together for a code sprint or to discuss Drupal projects.
>>>
>>> When?
>>> At Vancouver Josh and I floated out the idea of doing it in
>>> conjunction with the Personal Democracy Forum on May 15th. This  
>>> dates
>>> works with me, does it sound reasonable to you?
>>>
>>> Where?
>>> If we do it in NYC in conjunction with PDF, I can think of two
>>> possiblities off the top of my head:
>>>
>>>    1. The Tank
>>>    2. EyeBeam
>>>
>>> I will follow up with my contacts at both of these venues tomorrow.
>>> Does anyone know of another possible venue?
>>>
>>> Curriculum
>>>
>>> We should make sure that whatever is taugh and learned at "Drupal
>>> Camp" is recorded and synthesized for posterity. We want to have  
>>> many
>>> more of these in the future so we should aim for publish-able
>>> curriculum that can be later posted on Drupal.org.
>>>
>>> Next Steps?
>>>
>>>    1. Gregory Heller is organizing a consultant conference call to
>>> talk about this and other issues shortly on the consultat  
>>> mailinglist.
>>>    2. David Geilhufe proposed we look into the former Ars Digita
>>> training camps. I'll sign up to follow up and do some research  
>>> and try
>>> to talk to folks involved in organizing them.
>>>    3. We need to figure out a data / location. Unless someone can  
>>> come
>>> up with a better data / location than PDF on May 15th let's go with
>>> that. I will start looking seriously into venues tomorrow.
>>>    4. We need to line up the teaching staff and get firm commitments
>>> from vendors to sponsor newbies. I can take this on starting Friday.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> -Zack
>>>
>>> On Feb 22, 2006, at 5:59 PM, Gregory Heller wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Perhaps the problem sets could include things like:
>>>> Port a contributed module from 4.6 to 4.7?
>>>> Integrate bug fixes or patches for a module
>>>>
>>>> they could be submitted by the community, or culled from the forum
>>>> http://drupal.org/forum/51
>>>> any revenue generated could go to defray costs for space, food,
>>>> trainer's and organizer's time, back to drupal, and maybe to the
>>>> "student" in an amount no greater than the cost of the camp (if  
>>>> there is
>>>> a cost associated).
>>>>
>>>> Another option could be completing an entire website project for  
>>>> a non
>>>> profit organization.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> David Geilhufe wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Back in the dot com boom, a company called ARS Digita did "boot
>>>>> camps."  I like the name "Drupal Camp"
>>>>>
>>>>> These basically were 2-5 day training sessions for developers. You
>>>>> went the camp, learned some basics and then completed some  
>>>>> "problem
>>>>> sets" collaboratively with the folks at the boot camp. A  
>>>>> problem set
>>>>> would be something like creating a module. Perhaps the problems  
>>>>> could
>>>>> be something like:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Create a basic module.
>>>>> 2. Create a module that exercises parts of the Drupal API  
>>>>> thoroughly.
>>>>> 3. Create a new theme
>>>>> 4. ?
>>>>>
>>>>> This would also be a great addition to the handbook for folks to
>>>>> self-study.
>>>>>
>>>>> If someone with more drupal skills were to work with me, we  
>>>>> could come
>>>>> up with a few problem sets to start putting together on the  
>>>>> Handbook.
>>>>> david
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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