[consulting] CMS comparison

[Nick Lewis]

leighm at linuxbandwagon.com wrote:
> yes BUT
>
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> As it stands there are three places joomla or mambo really stand above 
> drupal
>
> - Excellent gallery support (uses some existing packages and you can 
> get interconnectors
> from mambo/joomla to them, unlike drupal gallery2 which is a major hack)
>
> - Superior ecommerce support (ecommerce in drupal is relatively new)
>
> - Excellent forum support (uses some existing forum packages and you 
> can get
> interconnectors from mambo/joomla to them)
>
> i think you'll find these points are hard to argue against
I suppose my point is that Drupal's clean code, exploding community of 
developers, and the fact that it has an actual API makes drupal a far 
better investment for someone who is looking to drop a few grand on a 
CMS. From the marketing and sales perspective, its important to 
emphasize that drupal's current shortcomings are more than compensated 
by its long term promise.

True, gallery2-2-drupal is hackish -- and even gallery2, as one 
potential client who I spoke to yesterday put it, is "Compared to 
flickr, and other image handling services, a medieval solution ..."

Yet, I'd venture as far to say that mambo/joomla! as a whole is one big 
hack. A hack sustained by a core of developers who've actually bothered 
to understand the idiosyncrasies of the hack.

Yes, drupal's imagehandling, forums, and galleries are superior. But for 
how long? That's my question...

Onward,
Nick Lewis
http://www.nicklewis.org
>
> Quoting Nick Lewis <nick at nicklewis.org>:
>
>> John Sechrest wrote:
>>> Today I saw the article about CMS War:
>>>
>>> http://www.torkiljohnsen.com/2006/05/09/cms-war/
>>>
>>> And it looks from the graph that drupal is doing well, but that 
>>> Joomla is doing better.
>>>
>>> What are the features of Joomla that people are reacting to, which
>>> drupal does not have?
>>>
>>>
>>> What are the features of drupal that people don't know, but which
>>> if they did, would cause them to prefer drupal?
>>>
>> Its worth noting that a lot of CMS comparisons unfairly favor Joomla, 
>> and other platforms because they don't take the library of 3rd party 
>> modules and themes into account. Also, I wrote an article some time 
>> ago about this, http://www.nicklewis.org/mambo-vs-drupal -- I think 
>> the 60-80 comments that have been posted in response are more 
>> interesting than anything I said. Generally my point was:
>>
>> Compare the first thing that a "shopper" sees when they visit the two 
>> sites:
>>
>> *Drupal: "Community Plumbing" *
>>
>> Lead text: "Equipped with a powerful blend of features, Drupal can 
>> support a variety of websites ranging from personal weblogs to large 
>> community-driven websites."
>>
>> *Mambo: "Power in Simplicity" *
>>
>> Lead text: "Mambo is one of the most powerful Open Source Content 
>> Management Systems on the planet. It is used all over the world for 
>> everything from simple websites to complex corporate applications. 
>> Mambo is easy to install, simple to manage, and reliable."
>>
>> The truth is that Mambo is bulky, badly optimized for search engines, 
>> and generally rigid and brittle to customized. Drupal, on the other 
>> hand, is perhaps the most search engine friendly CMS on the market. 
>> Its modular, flexible, its underlying design has been guided by a 
>> stellar philosophy. But, I only know that because I work with the 
>> things. Customers who do their shopping, on the other hand, have the 
>> word "plumbing" as part of their first impression of drupal.
>>
>> Drupal chose a word that evokes images of ass-cracks, human waste, 
>> clogged toilets, bills from the plumber, and plungers."
>>
>> :-/
>>
>> Best,
>> Nick Lewis
>> http://www.nicklewis.org
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