[consulting] CMS comparison

Jenny Hsueh jenny at ondemand-network.com
Wed May 10 23:04:22 UTC 2006


sorry if my attached message was read in somewhat  negative tone and 
saying drupal has to be a certain way.
Quite opposite, what I'm saying is - if drupal is intended to be a 
creative environment and taking less commercial interests then let it be 
and we as people who are providing drupal as a service will then have to 
plan accordingly and put the appropriate business wrappers around it, 
this was never clear to me before.

This is all about knowing what to expect. As I said in one of my 
previous posts, we need to separate the concerns of technology vs 
business. A sound technology platform can cater to many different 
business models and individual's needs like what Unix did, drupal can 
very well be the next generation web platform plumbing
If this is the case, then lets create the business supply and demand 
environment around drupal, and setting the right expectation at the 
market place. There are people capable or like to build  everything from 
soup to nuts but there are people their interests is more on using 
technology  as the enabler to make some  social impact and willing to 
pass on the technical details to the next supplier.

Also, software stability certainly does not mean less creativity or 
freezing the features. It is more about a stable overall architecture, 
re-using existing patterns and recognizing the new. I have just started 
observing  the development list a few weeks ago, can't say I understand 
all what have been said but my nose tells me drupal still has some way 
to go to reach that level of maturity. This is all part of the growing 
process, so it is not a complain but to point out the areas that need 
some attention and solution.

Jenny


Khalid B wrote:

>On 5/10/06, Jenny Hsueh <jenny at ondemand-network.com> wrote:
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>>Fully agree with what John said here. if creativity and unbound playing
>>field is a decided focus of Drupal, then  for us on this consulting
>>list  we have to come up with plan B if we to continue using  drupal as
>>a business solution or plan C to keep drupal as a sandbox toy for ideas
>>inspirations.
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>>The plan B - business wrapper around drupal can be provided in several
>>layers,  such as providers of commercial grade modules/distros that is
>>offered with a fee and with support, distribution/hosting  platforms
>>with backward compatibility and performance issues all taken care of,
>>individual consultants for specialized customization work and  finally
>>the lazy guys who just go out,  find customers, collects the money and
>>distribute them to all :-)
>>
>>With the way drupal is going, we all have to be a Jack of all trades
>>master of none. I  can not  live up to the promise of what we said to
>>our customers - routinely upgrade to the latest feature that is
>>available in Drupal - as it is indeed very costly to upgrade!  The ASP
>>model that Civicspace and Bryght is offering or planning to offer  is
>>moving  to the right direction I think.
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>Jenny
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>I am a consultant using Drupal to sell services to customers, and one
>can argue that it is in my selfish interest to freeze it.
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>However, I don't want Drupal to do that. The reason is that this very
>creativity that makes the platform dynamic, poweful, flexible, yet
>small and nimble as well.
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>I don't want Drupal to be boxed into this or that. Like a young child,
>let it try everything and decide its own path without being forced into
>something or other.
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>The last thing I want is for Drupal to become a slave to corporate
>interest, no matter how lucrative this market is ...
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