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On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:51 AM, <consulting-request at drupal.org> wrote:

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>   1. Re: consulting Digest, Vol 43, Issue 25 (claudian at webaccess.co.in)
>   2. Re: Drupal Certification (Tom Geller)
>   3. Re: Drupal Certification (Sam Cohen)
>   4. list moderator, please help (Laura)
>   5. The question isnt if it's how (Dane Ensign)
>   6. Re: Drupal Certification (Ayen Designs)
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> Date: 7 Aug 2009 22:02:20 +0530
> From: claudian at webaccess.co.in
> Subject: Re: [consulting] consulting Digest, Vol 43, Issue 25
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> Will be on vacation for the period 8th August - 23rd August. Please contact
> stephen.lobo at webaccess.co.in during this period for any work that requires
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> Thanks
> Claudian
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 12:32:25 -0400
> From: Tom Geller <tom at tomgeller.com>
> Subject: Re: [consulting] Drupal Certification
> To: consulting at drupal.org
> Message-ID: <CC18F433-6F61-461D-9DA7-4B4F72D8C5BA at tomgeller.com>
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> Sam Cohen <sam at samcohen.com> writes:
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> > I developed an online course for a nonprofit client (using Drupal of
> > Course)
> > and we stayed away from the word "certification" but did offer a
> > "certificate of completion" at the end.
>
> That's exactly what Lynda.com does for my two Drupal courses: See
> http://www.lynda.com/home/CertificateOfCompletion/LearnMore.aspx
>  and http://www.lynda.com/home/ViewCourses.aspx?lpk0=413 .
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> --Tom, who sort-of-relevantly and by pure coincidence just finished
> rereading the Socialist novel, "The Jungle".
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>           Tom Geller  *  Oberlin, Ohio  *  415-317-1805
>              Writer/Editor * http://www.tomgeller.com
>     articles, marketing, training materials, user guides, books
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 12:35:02 -0400
> From: Sam Cohen <sam at samcohen.com>
> Subject: Re: [consulting] Drupal Certification
> To: "A list for Drupal consultants and Drupal service/hosting
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> On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Ayen Designs <info at ayendesigns.com>
> wrote:
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> > I think they might seem to sound the same at the start, but I don't look
> at
> > a Certified Public Account being the same as someone with an accounting
> > certificate.  Usually, certification (for a professional job) follows any
> > degree work, whether officially or just naturally. A 'certificate' is
> > typically one step below an Associate degree.
>
>
> I think you are undervaluing certificates. Especially when it comes to
> continuing education for professionals -- the course I built qualified for
> CEU credits for social workers -- and they were glad to have the
> certificate.
>
> Lots of top universities offer certificates in things like nonprofit
> management and organization development, that are highly valued.
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> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 10:35:27 -0600
> From: Laura <pinglaura at gmail.com>
> Subject: [consulting] list moderator, please help
> To: claudian.fernandes at webaccess.co.in, A list for Drupal consultants
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> Can a list administrator suspend Claudian's autoresponding email
> subscription? I don't think we want more of these over the next 16
> days. -Laura
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> On Aug 7, 2009, at Fri 8/7/09 10:32am, claudian at webaccess.co.in wrote:
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> > Will be on vacation for the period 8th August - 23rd August. Please
> > contact stephen.lobo at webaccess.co.in during this period for any work
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> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 10:49:01 -0600
> From: Dane Ensign <dane at deepsnow.us>
> Subject: [consulting] The question isnt if it's how
> To: A list for Drupal consultants and Drupal service/hosting providers
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> I think the answer is an open-standards knowledge/portfolio spec.
> Adhere it or dont, the choice is yours.
> The need is here, and an open spec is a fair responsible way to do it.
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> Dane
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 12:50:51 -0400
> From: Ayen Designs <info at ayendesigns.com>
> Subject: Re: [consulting] Drupal Certification
> To: A list for Drupal consultants and Drupal service/hosting providers
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> No, I understand the value of them, and agree that they are valuable.
> What I meant--sorry if it was lost in my choice of wording--was that if
> I send someone to a Drupal class, and they get a Certificate of
> Completion, that's not comparable, as an inference, to Certified Drupal
> Developer, or Joe Bloggs, CDD.  To put it another way, if the fact that
> someone has Certification is not to be viewed by the customer as having
> high meaning, then it becomes an education tool and should not be a
> marketing tool.
>
> Sam Cohen wrote:
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> >
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Ayen Designs <info at ayendesigns.com
> > <mailto:info at ayendesigns.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     I think they might seem to sound the same at the start, but I
> >     don't look at a Certified Public Account being the same as someone
> >     with an accounting certificate.  Usually, certification (for a
> >     professional job) follows any degree work, whether officially or
> >     just naturally. A 'certificate' is typically one step below an
> >     Associate degree.
> >
> >
> > I think you are undervaluing certificates. Especially when it comes to
> > continuing education for professionals -- the course I built qualified
> > for CEU credits for social workers -- and they were glad to have the
> > certificate.
> >
> > Lots of top universities offer certificates in things like nonprofit
> > management and organization development, that are highly valued.
> >
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